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    There are those that believe that Syria, with the aid of Iran, could launch a cyber war that could cripple some of our infrastructure and business infrastructure.

    If Iran is behind a cyber attack that results in loss of life, is that considered an act of war?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-syria-crisis-cyberspace-analysis-idUSBRE97S04Z20130829

    Hasn't 0 already said that a cyber attack could/would be consider an act of war???
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    What the SEA did was the lowest level of hacking you can do. They did brute force against weak passwords at a domain registrar.

    If that's an act of war there are 20,000 script kiddies across the globe that should be expecting a cruise missile sometime soon.
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    and they crashed the Times and could have done much worse, or so say the experts



    interesting that their servers are based in Russia and Putin will do nothing to shut them down. I think that and Snowden are meant to tell 0 what he can do with his rest button
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    They didn't crash the Times.
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    ok, they caused an hours long outage when they redirected all their traffic to a corrupted server. that means the times site was not working. call it what you want
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    Well there's an important distinction.

    It takes no computing power to brute force a poorly-secured DNS host. Taking down the Times' infrastructure is a different story.
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    What OBOB says. They hit the Times domain name registrar.
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    Syria. al-Queda. Iran. Whomever. IMHO, this is the future of war - knocking out our telcom would render our ability to retaliate worthless. Messing up financial records "Hmmm, according to our information, Mr. Smith, you haven't paid property nor IRS taxes in 7 years...tell it to the judge after you sit in jail for a few weeks" would be some scary stuff. There have been "flash crashes" in the financial markets because of computer trading - was that on its own or with a little help? What is that Einstein quote " I cannot tell you the weapons that will be used in WWIII; but, I can tell you the weapons in WWIV - sticks and stones "

    Maybe Syria doesn't have the players to do this now; but, are you telling me that between everyone in the Middle East + Pakistan + possibly some friendly, though not overt, help from Russia & China, some bad stuff couldn't happen? It's the future of war - and it's much more effective than being slammed on an Internet forum. :yes:
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    You see how the Dems are already planting the seeds of a protracted war... in two countries? :roll:
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    What? Surely you're not calling G8trGr8t a Dem.
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    In the event of a cyber war the servers in Russia, China, and Iran are the least of our concerns. Agents here in the USA could inflict major issues. Also, no one knows what dormant virus's and worms are already planted in the USA that are waiting for the wake up command.
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    I will. Sheep in wolf's clothing! Calling all shepherds (Smiths.)

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    While highly possible that works both ways. Maybe they will screw each other up so bad that we are cut off from them and they are cut off from us. I like our chances in that case better than theirs.
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    dems fitin werds

    unintended consequences is something this admin has repeatedly failed to plan for. Hopefully there is a plan in place in the event a cyber attack takes place. a few lbs of misc C 4 should take out servers somewhere and if a few servers spontaneously blow up maybe server owners will reconsider who they are hosting
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    A couple of points:

    1. Nobody - much less hackers - have dedicated hardware per server. Everything is cloud-based and instantaneously replaceable.

    2. These "attacks" require nothing more than the computing power of 1995. Even if someone's server blew up, it would be replaced for pennies.
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    A cyber attack that does serious damage is certainly an act of war. Frankly any state sponsored cyber attack is an act of war.
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    What? The domain name server?

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