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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Dec 27, 2013.
A shame what's happened to it:
I have to admit I do not listen to much Country Music anymore.
talk radio/politics and sports (still getting used to NBC sports vs espn as the analytic talk of Brian Kinney drives me crazy)
Then Country. But I really do not tune in much anymore.
Did you say country music?
It's because the same dude writes all their songs. I believe his name is bubba. Lives just outside of Nashville--in a suburb--in a veritable mansion designed to look like a double-wide trailer.
Its always about trucks, blue jeans, dirt roads and girls. At least for the last 20+ years. Its not the old twang country some people like. I like most generations of country but my problem with country music today is that they are trying to be country/rappers and not real country singers. Luke Bryan is one of the worst.
I think it must be demographics. We old country fans are dying off, the crap today is aimed at young people, who want pop, not country. I can't stand "contemporary Christian" music either. I love old beautiful gospel songs, but where can you hear them now?
I recently discovered Jimmy Swaggart's Sonlife Broadcasting Network. Didn't know he was still on, used to watch him back in his pre-scandal days and missed him. I don't care at all for his Pentecostal theology, but I love to hear him sing those Christian ballads at the piano. I don't even know what to call them, country gospel, Southern gospel, traditional gospel or what, but I watch him some every day just to hear some of those beautiful songs. Trouble is, you have to catch them in between sermons and panel discussions of the Rapture, who's going and who isn't, etc. Just sing, Jimmy!
Who cares what's on the charts or on the radio? Someone, somewhere is making the type of music you like. All you have to do is go find it. We've never had more access to more music than we do right now.
I don't have a problem with what they're singing about. Country music has always been vapid in that regard. It's the sound. Everybody has the same sound, almost without exception. It's all the same two songs, one by a man bragging about raising hell and one by a woman fed up with her man's hell raising.
I have a satellite country station that plays a cross section of country-when it gets to the new rock/rap/country stuff I just turn it back to 60's on 6
I don't know, I've listened to a lot of country, back to Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family. There's always been a pretty side range of subjects, including some pretty dark stuff. Been listening to late '60s Johnny Paycheck lately. "Pardon Me, I've Got Someone To Kill" ain't light stuff.
I listened to more than an hour of a country station in the car a couple of weeks ago. The songs sung by women had a variety of subjects, but all sounded exactly the same:Multiple voices singing full bore. No tone, no inflection.
The guys' songs had a little more vocal variety. Verses were sometimes only one voice, but the choruses were all big, loud attempts at anthems. And the subject matter really was what the video in the first post found. Every song was about partying with a good looking woman in really tight jeans. Maybe a dirt road, maybe a beach. But the exact same thing.
I'd say hey day country was actually late 70s / early 80s. This is when the heart of the current commercialized country took root, but it was still dominated by 50s and 60s stalwarts.
I was a DJ on a Country Station in the late 70's-loved that sound
But to be fair, we're talking about mainstream country. And mainstream anything tends not to be particularly creative. There's tons of good music being created in country, Americana, bluegrass ... But it's not going to make the radio
I think this is a pretty big generalization, though. If you listen to pop top 40, the sound is fairly dynamic - things change rapidly, new sounds, singers, structures. It may not be your cup of tea, but it's a pliable format.
My problem with modern country is that it takes forever to change. You can often have a hard time discerning a track from 2013 from a track from 1995. It's founded largely on comfort, so there isn't much pressure to evolve.
That was the big thing with the 50s - it was a confluence of cowboy music and roots rock. Until the early 1980s, it evolved, changed and took new forms. Somewhere in the 80s that largely changed.
And of course a lack of authenticity bothers me.
In the 1950s and 1960s - those guys (and girls) were living what they were singing about. In 2013, you basically have pop stars masquerading in well-worn modern country tropes.
its really happened to all genres, because the music industry tries to gain cross popularity between genres to make more $$$
so everything gets watered down to sound poppish
You basically described the essence of 1950s country, though. Most of those guys wrote songs for pop artists and vice versa. There was a lot of overlap, and in many cases the musical themes between "rock n' roll" and "country" are indistinguishable.
If music is catchy, it's at risk of being "pop" regardless of intended genre. Short of avant garde or noise, that can happen at any point. Hell, remember that awful pseudo-techno Cotton Eyed Joe version in the early 00s?
I agree and I dont think the repetitive sound is only country music.
Rap: Money, drugs, guns, women
R&B: Love, hate, cheating
Rock: F the system, drugs, girls
Reggae: Oppression, freedom, weed
At some point in a specific genre, you start running out of things to say or else you start running into differnet genres.
Of course, our opinions change over time. Everyone I knew made fun of Tammy Wynette, now she's classic.