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Consulate in Benghazi: Just a CIA front?

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    The CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya
    In eight months since an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi left four Americans dead, a Republican-led investigation has focused on potential missteps by the White House — and come away with nothing significant.
    There has been little attention given, however, to covert actions by the Central Intelligence Agency that were partially uncovered during the September 11, 2012 attack.
    That may be changing.
    CNN's Jake Tapper argued this week that we should give more scrutiny to the CIA's presence in the Libyan port city.
    Congressman Frank Wolf (R-Va.) said the same, according to CNN: "There are questions that must be asked of the CIA and this must be done in a public way."
    Among the questions are whether CIA missteps contributed to the security failure in Benghazi and, more importantly, whether the Agency's Benghazi operation had anything to do with reported heavy weapons shipments from the local port to Syrian rebels.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/intrigue-surrounding-secret-cia-operation-131900870.html

    Read the article, bubs! Things might not be what they appear. Or there might be a lot more there than we want to make public. Issa is playing with fire, although I'm sure all the rest of the CIA operatives are long gone.
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    I admit that there are something's when legally done they should not be aired in public

    However if at least one law was broken then justice needs to be served.

    Funny how the Dem/Libs skewered Reagan for Contra Gate (rightly so) but they don't even want to consider that Obama or his admin broke the law in Lybia .

    Watch them say it is a matter of nation security not to investigate .
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    Gun running ala Mexico all over again. What a corrupt piece of crap we have in charge.
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    If there was money to be made then I wonder which bundler got the contract to be the middle man?
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    I long for the days when you had leaders in both the House and the Senate that had control of their flock and ruled with an iron fist. When they could tell Issa to pipe down because he doesn't want to go there. When they could subtly mention that the big defense contract for his district was being reviewed and it might get scaled back. None of this freaking posturing in front of the cameras.
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    That type of action still happens
    How do you think Obama Care got through the House and Senate?
    Does the Corn Husker Kickback and Louisiana Purchase sound familiar?
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    there is no doubt wheeling an dealing among interest groups occurs with major legislation - see Hospitals agreeing to price controls coupled with more patients - but you need some new material. Neither of the two "deals" you mention happened.
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    The question is a little silly and/or naive. Every consulate and embassy in the world is a front for intelligence gathering and other clandestine activities and has been since the first exchange of ambassadors.
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    Well said uftaipan...how true indeed. However, once again we have to turn it in to a partisan thing...finger pointing, whining, schoolyard antics...ALL administrations, cons and dems do the SAME...Wake up people!!!!
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    In the end it will come out that the OA was supplying arms to the rebels.

    But it was hat damn video that got those people killed!

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    This is eerily reminiscent of Iran Contra.
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    All administrations make excuses for their FU's OB1...all of them...dem and pub...that's just good 'ole politics as usual.
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    What law do we have any evidence that they broke? Is there a law against moving weaponry to Syrian rebels?
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    I don't know. Why don't you ask Ollie North?
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    Well, since he broke specific arms embargoes against Iran and a law limiting support for the Contras, he would know a thing about illegal international dealings. But I don't think we have such laws involving Syrian rebels. And I'm not sure North has kept up on his research on international arms dealing laws since he was accused of breaking some quite a while ago.
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    That Benghazi may have involved a CIA operation shipping arms to Syrian rebels came out months ago. But the mainstream media is just hearing about it? Sure. No one wanted to pay attention. After all, it was only discussed on websites visited by conspiracy nuts. Nothing to see there. Just voices crying in the wilderness.
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    Jake better be careful or he'll be out of work faster than Rick Sanchez.
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    If everyone had that attitude Contra Gate would of never seen the light of day.

    To answer your question. Yes there are laws/restrictions about moving weaponry to Syrian rebels. Not to prevent the weapons getting there but how the process is executed.

    At the time of the Benghazi incident there was a UN arms embargo on Syria. That embargo was lifted May 28 of this year.
    1, The act of getting those arms to Syria was against the UN approval.
    2, The act of getting those arms to Syria most likely did not have proper approval of the US Congress and Executive office.
    3, The lack of knowledge or distributing the knowledge of this activity could be an unlawful cover up.

    Shades of Contra Gate all over.

    Are you suggesting that we turn a blind eye on this activity?
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    1. That was a EU arms embargo. We are not in the EU. Therefore, it doesn't apply.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/29/world/meast/syria-embargo-explainer
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...scuss-syria-as-eu-nixes-arms-embargo/2364873/

    2. Is there a specific law that congress has to approve of every arms shipment explicitly? Clearly, Congress can specifically outlaw money or arms transfers, as they did prior to Iran-Contra. However, you have not shown that this has occurred.

    3. A whole lot of speculation, but you can't even point to a law that might have been broken.

    The issue with Iran-Contra was that the Congress had explicitly forbidden the aid to the Contras and there was an arms embargo that applied to the United States against Iran. Again, neither of those things appear to be true in this case.
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    What activity?

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