Climbing the income ladder: Location counts

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    Interesting story from the NYTimes.

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    Why is this interesting?
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    Thanks the link, I also found it interesting and informative, and could be quite helpful for city planners
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    Whew...If you have a choice of where to be poor, it doesn't look like you want to be poor in the Southeast.
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    Well I personally think it's interesting because I wouldn't expect location to have an overall impact on upward mobility.
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    I was looking at where blacks live in the US last week for a project, and so this comparison jumped out at me. I sat down with the two maps side. As expected there is a lot of overlap, but the places with divergence between the two maps are interesting.

    Tallahassee and Lake City are just as black as most of Georgia, but much higher mobility (and Jacksonville has lower mobility than Tallahassee and Lake City, but with a lower percentage of blacks).

    North Carolina has an even higher percentage of blacks than South Carolina, but South Carolina has lower mobility.

    Detroit has the exact same mobility as Kalamazoo, with a much lower percentage of blacks in Kalamazoo.

    Indianapolis has a relatively low black population, but some of the lowest mobility outside of the southern states.

    Upstate New York has a couple of pockets in Buffalo and Syracuse with high black populations, but still good mobility.

    What is North Carolina doing differently from South Carolina? What are Tallahassee and Lake City doing differently from Jacksonville? What is going on in Indianapolis? What is making Buffalo and Syracuse work so well?
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    I would guess where there is higher mobility there are a higher % of government jobs. Unfortunately, for minorities, it seems getting hired by local, state or fed guvmint is highest chance for stability and advancement. Just a guess.
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    Based on what has been posted a few questions come to mind as I cant get the link to work right now.

    How is mobility defined? Is it based on increased income? What is considered a better job? More education?

    For example is someone considered to have upward mobility if say they worked at the Lake City Inn and then get a job at the Jacksonville Hilton making more money?
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    Conclusion: Move to North Dakota
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    Rather walk the beach in Florida broke, than be wealthy and scraping ice off my car windshield in ND.

    It isn't always about money.
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    That is odd.

    The rest I have no clue, but I would guess that greater urbanization in N. Carolina (Charlotte and the Triangle) might be a large part of the answer for that part of the question.

    Government and 2 Universities probably help Tallahassee.

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