China Flexing Muscle

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    China declared an air defense zone over islands jointly claimed by Japan. They recognize that 0 is weak and unable to respond to I expect this to be the first of many strong nationalist moves by China.

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...erry-criticizes-new-air-defense-zone-in-china

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    I swear some of these countries must be reading Clancy's books.
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    Why wouldn't China do this? Zero's not gonna do anything about it.
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    How do you know? Obama hasn't been told about it yet.
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    well since Kerry denounced it I would assume that 0 knows but maybe Valerie hasn't told him yet.
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    China has literally doing this stuff for decades. They have done all kinds of provocative things over the years including firing on Vietnamese fishing boats, declaring dominion over the whole South China Sea etc.


    Though I do think that the timing is purposeful, we are tied up with Iran, Syria. Iraq, Afghanistan etc... but more importantly they are smarting a bit from the world's response to their Philippine aid (or lack thereof), and the view that the US demonstrated its place in the region with our response.
    It's just a bit of a hissy fit.
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    You guys must really lov big gov if you think this should be our bidness.
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    well I think that we are committed by treaty to defend Japan. Guess that makes it our bidness
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    One of Obama's signature foreign policy moves was to organize a regional coalition against the Chinese...which they, in turn, bided their time and are now striking to see how we'll respond. And no, it's not coincidence after we build up goodwill after our typhoon relief.
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    Wake me up when Japan gets attacked then.

    This has next to nothing to do with us and isn't our bidness
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    Both Japan and China own all of our debt...and therefore us.
    Since when are Chinese dealings none of our bidness?

    Our bidness is our bidness and none of your bidness. :yes:
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    You know that man was ahead of his time Hall. :yes:
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    China is now flying air cover over the islands and will engage flights that encroach over that airspace. If Japan sends flights into the zone and they are engaged and threatened does that count or does blood have to be spilled?

    First 0 let Assad defacate on his red line and then bent over and let Iran have their way with us. China sees a weak USA with a distracted aloof leader and is going to push more until somebody pushes back.
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    Exactly.

    If Obama's regional coalition is to survive his presidency, he needs to take firm action here. Move a carrier into the region--have American air patrols fly alongside Japanese planes, etc. Firm action to show that Chinese aggression into their neighbors' territory will not be tolerated.

    If not, then Obama's signature move will end up in tatters and he will have destroyed the base element of our "encirclement" of the Chinese.
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    0 will let Japan fly it alone and get chased out before he issues another strongly worded statement and Japan will know that if they spill blood they will have no support in kind.
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    I said that back on 9/11. I bet OBL read them.
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    I recall that. Sure seems like it.
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    US has said we will back Japan if it comes to force.

    http://www.dw.de/japanese-pm-abe-calls-new-china-airspace-rules-dangerous/a-17249751
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