Changing calls at the line.

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  1. gatrfanzz
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    Is Driskel being allowed to change the call at the los? I noticed several times that we ran into the teeth of the 8 man front.
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    there are checks built in to some plays and Driskel is allowed to go to one of those checks. Muschamp said he did a great job og getting us in and out of the right play
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    I thought we should have checked several times where we got very little out of run against a stacked line.
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    what plays and to what call?
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    He checked several times into run plays that were successful, so yes. But is a misnomer that you should check to a pass if they are plus one in the box. There are a ton of ways to attack it. If we are in a jumbo package or an unbalanced line, you can run into it with ease. That is how we busted many of our big runs last year. If it is a zone blitz, then you are best running to the perimeter or throwing a quick pass to the perimeter.
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    I'm not sure if we checked out of the 3rd and short when we faked inside and tossed outside to Showers. That was a great play call at the perfect time. Its amazing how many different looks we can give a defense behind the LOS in the run game.
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    Per PD's article, he did have several opportunities to check but we (Pease and Muschamp) simply chose not to.

    For anyone who hasn't read his latest article, it's fairly informative and answers many questions on this board.
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    Where is it? This cite?
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    Even if he's getting blitzed with no blockers to protect him? :huh:
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    You are talking about two different phases. Plus one is alignment, not pressure. Some plus boxes are blitzes, some aren't. Zone pressures, for instance, only bring four, but they ordinarily have a plus one box. Zone blitzes (dogs), send four, most often with Mike and/or Will on a run blitz.

    This thread was specifically talking about a stacked box against the run, and teams don't always--or even mostly--check to passes in those situations. A spread offense does because it is based largely on pre-snap reads, but others like ours that use alignment shifts in pre-snap don't as much. The key is checking to them at the right times and hitting those plays when you do because everyone defensively is thinking run.
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    Nice write up by PD. thx for the link.
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    No problem, always glad to please my fellow gator brethren.
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    No I'm not. I'm talking about a "stacked box" on a run play too. This thread title would be wrong if you're right.

    So why not talk about any play calling change instead of such a narrow focus on a "stacked box" only. Does JD have the okay to change the call at the line of scrimmage.
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    Dude, you highlighted the part about it being a misnomer that you should always check to a pass in the event of a stacked box and asked whether or not that is the case for a blitz when there are no blockers in for protection, which implies a pass protection situation. That's why I made the distinction.

    And, yes, there are built in checks that Driskel can use, has used, and will continue to use, but the point of the opening post in this thread obviously implied that if there is an eight-man box you should check out of the run and throw the ball. That may be true for some offenses, like the spread, but not for all, including ours.
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    My only question was if Driskel can change the play at the line of scrimmage regardless of what the defense shows.
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    I have no clue exactly what his latitude is. Most plays have built-in checks and he definitely has the freedom in ordinary situations, but it surely isn't carte blanche.
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    Thanks for your input.
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    Regarding Driskel's role in changing plays at the LOS, it seems to me like it's ultimately a moot point, and that play calls and changing calls at the line of scrimmage is entirely the coaching staff's responsibility.

    If they want Driskel to change plays that he's not changing, can't they fix that by implementing a "system" (i.e., look to the sideline :roll:) to change the play from the sideline?
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    There are some good points in this thread and also in PD's article. I think I also read somewhere that Pease likes to dictate what the defense does and not the other way around. This is a big reason why we don't run that 'check-with-me-at-the-line' offense like in the past. We apply the pressure and we dictate tempo, etc.

    I really think Miami better play us honest on D or they'll get burnt by misdirection/reverses (which we've already shown), Driskel making multiple, timely checks at the line, and play-action. I think everything we did (or didn't do) on Sat was for a reason. And save for a drop and a hold, we may have put up 40.

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