CBSSports.com 2014-15 Ridiculously Early Preseason Top 25 (and one)

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    UConn's Boatwright is 5'10" - just saying.
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    Guess I fail to see the correlation between the height of a 5'8" point guard and the fact that we lost in the Elite Eight. I do, however, see the correlation between that point guard's play and our consecutive trips to the Elite Eight (especially after being a NIT team when he arrived). Height at the one simply does not matter much in the collegiate game.
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    Good list. Duke is scary next year for sure.

    I'm guessing they get to the second round before a 14/15 beats them this time :p

    As for us. We gonna mess peeps up with the athletic team we've got. We can legitimately put 12-13 guys on the floor and not have a bad player playing or even a hugely significant drop off from very good talent. I don't think a single team next year could say that. 12 deep of kids who would start at most programs, That's Arkansas on crack :p
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    That's Arkansas in 1994 back when they were actually competing for championships. I mean how could you NOT be excited about how much talent we have coming back next year.
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    If we have anyone as good as Corliss Williamson I would agree with you.
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    One weakness this year was offense disappearing in stretches in just about every game. If we can keep from going dormant so much, having every game going down to the wire won't be so common. OTOH, these guys are not going to have the same remarkable ability to win close games as our seniors did. We will have more talent than last year's team for sure but the team dynamic will be very different.
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    The question next year, like this year, is shooters.

    We know that Carter used to be a good shooter, and that both Francis & Robinson were good shooters in high school, but Carter shot 7% from the field for the Gators this year (1 of 14 and he was 0 for 2 from the FT line). Can he as a healthy player, recover his shooting form?

    The only high percentage experienced player will be Frazier (44.5% 3-point, 50% 2-point, 84% FT). D. Walker & Finney-Smith were both at 30% from 3, and while Finney-Smith was 44% at 2-point shots and 64% FT, D. Walker was only 33% on 2-pointers and 67% on FT. Kurtz, who can't shoot either, is supposed to graduate and transfer. Other than them, Kasey Hill hit 49% of 2s, 14% of 3s and 66% of FTs. Now Chris Walker hit 16 of 26 2-pointers (61.5%, but only 2 of 7 FTs (28.6%). Murphy is supposed to be athletic, but not a great shooter, and Harris is known as a defensive specialist, not a shooter.

    A team like this, except against overmatched opponents, simply is not likely to score 80 points very often.

    This team has the same question I had coming into this year: "Who will shoot the 3?" and, in addition, "Who will shoot anything?" When you only have a couple of scorers, good defensive teams can focus on them as, some successfully did with Frazier this year, to make games far closer than they should have been.
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    How on Earth do you come up with more Talent than this year's team. How many players have you seen running around with more talent than Patric Young, Casey Prather and Scotty Wilbekin. Even Yeguete had a lot of talent, although he was badly damaged by the micro-surgery. How is Harris more talented than Young? How is Robinson more talented than Prather? How is Carter more talented than Wilbekin? Are any of Robinson, Chiozo or Francis Mickey D All Americans? Is Murphy more talented than Yeguete, I doubt it. How are Kasey Hill and Chris Walker more talented than Kasey Hill and Chris Walker?

    I think that is one of the strangest statements I have seen in a long while.
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    I think your indignation at the suggestion is misguided...next year will have more talent because there will be more minutes for more talented players, pretty much across the board. It's not a strange statement at all. The core 4 were very good because of their ability to play together, within the system, but the story all year was how this team was not that talented but was a true team. Next year's team will be more talented at just about every position, but most likely won't be the same kind of "team" that comes with playing together for 4 years.
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    The 5 starters from this year improved their scoring from the previous year by an average of 56%. This was helped by 2 players(MF & Casey) more than doubling their stats. 4 of the starters overall saw a large increase in minutes played (not PY). . This group averaged 55 pts a game. If you apply that percentage increase to next year's starters, where the same difference in playing time will take place (all but MF). the group of KH,MF,DFS,CW, and DH average 53 points.
    I only gave MF half the increase b/c of time will be the same, so he went from averaging 12 to 15pts.
    KH from 6 to 9
    DFS from 9 to 14
    CW from 2 to 3 (this will surely increase more, but it's what the match said)
    DH from 7 to 11(this is based on his SC stats)
    This group totals out at 53 pts a game.

    I think most of these jumps are realistic, I think Kasey & C. Walker will get to over 10ppg. DFS prob. won't make it to 14, but 12 is realistic. Harris probably will be around 9ppg.

    The bench will have even more fire power with Carter,D.Walker and Murphy at minimum.
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    Look at it like this.

    Losing:
    Wilbekin (PG)
    Prather (SF)
    Yeguette(PF)
    Young (C)

    This opens up minutes for 2 of the most talented layers on our roster.
    Hill (PG)
    C. Walker (PF). (clear talent upgrade over Yeguette?)

    Additionally DFS might get more minutes. If he takes Prather's spot, I could see that being a bit of a wash (even though Prather got off to a very high PPG average, he cooled off late in the year).

    Then we are adding:
    -Demontre Harris (knock on wood)
    -Alex Murphy - possible starter quality at SF/PF(have to wait for spring?)
    -Eli Carter (assuming he's back to 100%, could be major +1)
    -Devin Robinson (watch this kid's video, the fact he's not a McD AA is totally irrelevant).
    -Chris Chiozza
    -Brandone Francis

    So while the starting lineup certainly is up for debate, there is no doubt that on paper this team has alot more depth of talent.

    I don't think anyone is saying next year's team will be a better team. That's rather absurd. There's like 99.9999999% probability that this team won't get within 2 or 3 games of last year's regular season overall record, let alone sweep through the SEC again. But there is no doubt, that Billy D will have as much or m ore "paper talent" to work with next year. It will still be about getting the most out of them though...
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    Yeah, the last sentence is crazy talk.
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    We will be good next year. My Magic Eight Ball says "To early to tell" when I asked about a possible NC.

    I will predict that we won't go 21-0 in the SEC, but I hope that I am wrong.

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