Can we trust Muschamp's talent evaluation

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    All I know is nearly everyone's evaluation on the coaching staff was wrong about Jeff Driskel.

    He has all the "seen" tools to play but he lacks the most important "unseen" tool

    Football IQ....He just can't put it all together on the field....and quite frankly I don't think he ever does

    But if Murph comes in, understands defenses, make throws long enough to keep the defense honest and maintains the level of pocket presence I saw Saturday Jeff Driskel should never start a game again for the Gators unless Murphy is hurt or some how ineligible.

    Remember some of the greatest college QB's didn't have "NFL" arm strength.

    Kellen Moore, Gram Harrel, and Brady Quinn all come to mind.
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    hahaha

    one of these things is not like the others, one of these things is different than the rest
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    Given that Muschamp is in his third year here at UF, the "we" in "we didn't recruit enough quality players at the correct position..." obscures excatly who is responsible for what.

    Let's look at who is responsible:

    CLASS...............................................STAFF

    5th YR seniors, signed in 2009..............Meyer's

    4th YR SRs, R'shirt JRs, signed in 2010...Meyer's

    True JRs, R'shirt Sophs, signed in 2011...Meyer/Muschamp(hired 7 weeks b4 Signing day

    True Sophs, R'shirt Fresh, signed in 2012...Muschamp

    True Freshman, signed in 2013.................Muschamp

    So when you are complaining about switching Floyd to DE last year, Muschamp had exactly one class on campus that was fully his, and they were 18 years old...

    Do you really blame him for not recruiting enough players at certain positions?
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    And I'm sick and tied of people thinking they know more about college football than our coaches do. Muschamp is our coach and we're 2-1 this year because of who he and his assistants want to play on offense and defense. You can't separate the two and CHERRY PICK or single out the offense.

    You and your "trend" are nothing more than bellyachers... that we true Gator fans can live without.
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    Yes...if you are thin at some positions you bring in Juco or stud freshman. He's been around long enough with major programs to know where they were weak. The two freshman he brought in at DE were Westbrook and Trail...that's not good enough and he paid the price for it.
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    I did forget about Floyd to DE....I liked the idea at first, hoping he'd be the 2nd coming of Reggie White. But it was clear that wasn't the best fit

    Not saying we know more than coaches, we don't. But the coaches make mistakes about talent evaluation and personnel all the time. It's America we can call them out if they do it too often

    Just look at the Jags front office for the past decade.....would ya'll back them up too?
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    By the way, complaining about what the person did or didn't do in the job prior to you taking it doesn't not mean you are exempt from mistakes or culpability. I realize it was his first year and you will make mistakes..which is the whole point...that coaches do make mistakes or error in judgement.
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    The problem is these guys questioning our HBC think that we should play like the next Super Bowl Champs, and anything less is unacceptable to their ilk.
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    Laugh all you want but any ND fans will tell you BQ made put them in the spotlight again.
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    And do I care what any ND fan tells me?
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    No and neither do you care about lack of laziness, because if you read the thread and messages before posting you would know this isn't the topic being debated at all
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    Play immediately and start immediately are two different things. Kelvin Taylor, Fulwood, and Robinson played immediately but none have started. Starters generally get more reps/opportunities but I agree with AZ, this kid sees the field from day one maybe at F (Burton's position from last year) since Burton will be gone.
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    That was Meyer's last class (Muschamp had 7 weeks to close it). Recruiting is a process based on relationships you can't just pick names out of a hat. After a year he brought in Fowler and Bullard. He identified a weakness there and corrected it. I'd say they are a huge improvement over Trail and Westbrook. You're kind of going against your own argument here.
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    Oh, I don't think there's any danger of that! :sad: :bored: :wave:


    Until the internet, I never knew such a huge underground caldera of hot, steaming criticism and second guessing existed. Amazing!!! :joecool:
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    You realize he is starting, and carrying the ball a lot right? Meaning, the coaches must think he is fine.
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    Yeah, and it was dumb. You take Floyd, the best DT, and put him at DE, where he wasn't the best DE. Silly move that many of us got flogged for criticizing at the time.
    Shocker. We were correct.

    As far as Jones, do you think they are putting a still sick kid on the field? He is about as clear a number 1 running back as I am. No burst. Not hitting holes hard. Fumbling. Three traits of a number 1 back?
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    It is irrelevant. You don't turn one on of the top DTs in the country into a middle of the road DE. It is beyond dumb. I can't believe people are even STILL trying to debate it.

    As far as Riggs playing safety over Gorman...well, that is another head scratcher. Watkins is there because there are at least 3, and I think 4 better CBs.
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    Who said they think they know more than the coaches?

    I'll hang up and listen.
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    There's a lot of hot, steaming "stuff", alright. :laugh:

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