building the Telsa S model

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    These are rather nitpicky points, though. And I'm not sure if you're trying to compare a truck to a car, a gas vehicle to an electric vehicle or what.
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    obob- you are correct in that I have no desire to own a fast go cart with pretty wrappings- but my main reasons are comfort, raw power and not liking to sit so low to road
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    As mentioned, only if you get a baseline model. And that's ignoring the bevy of mechanical issues you get with gas vehicles that don't accompany electric vehicles (oil changes, spark plugs, etc.)

    The reality is the electric vehicle will likely cost you less over the long run, but I gave the benefit of the doubt with the baseline model and minimal repairs.

    At the 10-year mark the battery would have about 50% life left, too.
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    Right, so this is basically like having someone who hates Indian food say he's not interested in Chicken Tikka Masala. It doesn't mean much.
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    Not so fast....

    Batteries in the Tesla need to be replaced after 8 years... $34,000... And the manufacture and disposal of those batteries are, I am betting, vastly more harmful to the environment than 10 years' worth of fuel burn in that pickup truck...

    We are on the right road, just not quite there yet.

    http://www.plugincars.com/tesla-roa...udy-85-percent-after-100000-miles-127733.html
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    Tesla recently said that the battery life is at least 10 years, hence my decade timeline. Eight years is the end of the warranty, not the battery.
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    One thing to keep in mind is the price drop in the cost of batteries. When the Prius came out people were claiming it would be $10k to replace those batteries. They were right if you had to do it at the time you bought it. By the time the batteries started failing the price was down to $3k. I'm certain we'll see a similar drop in the price of Tesla batteries. Also, there is a lot more research going on in the battery industry today than there was a decade ago. Expect advancements.
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    Yeah I have no desire to get a hybrid. I'll be with gas vehicles until electric vehicles are in the $25k-$30k range and can get 500 mile range. Which I suspect will be in about 10 years.
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    Coupled with supercharging stations there would be little reason to get a gasoline powered vehicle.
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    The owners say otherwise, but even with your numbers, at the end of 10 years you have a negative equity in the Tesla. In fact, you would likely have to pay to dispose of the Tesla. At least there is some sort of residual value in the pickup truck.
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    Yes. Tesla recently said that there were plans for a less expensive, and less capacity set of batterie for $12,000 but they're not yet available. wow.
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    Tesla is doing a buyback program, though I thought we were talking about money spent.

    And yes, the 10 year old baseline F150 will net you a cool $2800. I don't think it's really changing much.
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    Or, about $5,000 more than that same 10 year old Tesla will net you.
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    At the most giving estimate, sure. Certainly negligible, which was my point in the first place.

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