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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by cocodrilo, Feb 7, 2014.
...if he beats f$u every year, all would be forgiven.
If we look at the first set of stats I put up, let's not forget that Murph passed for 1.8 yards more per attempt... he didn't get that by just dumping the ball off. The TD to turnover ratio is self explanatory and is an immense difference between their levels of play. KT did come in and help the run game, but Murph was already injured by then.
We were trying to be more aggressive on offense with JD at the beginning of the season though. That is one thing I don't think most fans necessarily recognized. We could never really get there because of all the injuries throughout the team, including the OL, Jones and JD.
JD played against Toledo and Miami. It's not like he was playing the '85 Bears.
Toledo gave up 29ppg on the season against a MAC schedule and two top 25 teams... we scored 24.
Miami gave up 27ppg in the ACC, against two top 25 teams including #1 SWAC... we scored 16.
Vols gave up 29ppg against an SEC schedule including five top 10 teams and another top 25 team... we scored 30.
UK gave up 31ppg against an SEC schedule including three top 10 teams and two more top 25 teams... we scored 24.
Arky gave up 31ppg against an SEC schedule including three top 10 teams and two more top 25 teams ... we scored 31.
We scored 8ppg below average against MAC and ACC competition with Driskel at QB.
We scored 2ppg below average with Murph at QB (while he was healthy) against SEC competition that played far tougher schedules than Toledo or Miami.
Look, I've got nothing against JD. He actually looked a lot better the beginning of the season than he did the previous season. He showed pre-snap recognition, went through progressions, trusted his pocket, and made nice throws.
Between the 20s he played very well. But he kinda lost it in the money zones of the field, both with turnovers and missed plays we could have scored on. If he continues to improve, gets the new offense down and gets his head right in the RZ, he'll be fine. And the new offense may very well fit him better and help his game.
I didn't either... of course, I already made the case that Murph should have been the starter from what we've seen on the field.
As far as Brissett goes, he has some natural leadership to him and better pocket presence than JD... but he never translated that to more productivity on the field in the opportunities he had.
Pretty much agree with this. I would add Harris in the mix too. He could be like a quicker, faster version of Murph with a better arm.
Grier and Harris are both very talented and both appear to have nice pocket presence and poise. Not sure when they'll be ready for SEC level competition, but I expect they will both be very good.
IMO, Harris sees the field at receiver before QB.
I liked JB but thought Muschamp went with the right QB. Hope he does well at NC State.
Could be, but he is a very good QB, and at least for this year, we need the depth.
At this point in time, both (JB & JD) are mediocre QBs. Only difference is JD has had more opportunities to prove it.
Congrats to Jacoby. I hope he has a great career at NC St. As for the guys on the current roster, I wonder what kind of affect the arrival of Grier will have on Jeff. I don't expect Grier to start over Jeff, but the arrival of a new kid on the block can have an effect; positive or negative. Hopefully it motivates Jeff to work hard and improve.
I know folks hate the football analogies on the hoops board. I do to. But I'm gonna use the basketball team as an example. Kasey Hill's arrival to the Gator program obviously has not negatively influenced Scottie Wilbekin and I would suggest that it has likely provided a good bit of motivation.
Good for him, look forward to seeing what he can do with real playing time.
Murphy's three games healthy were as good or better than Driskel's three best games ever. And that is including Driskel's games against cupcakes.
I know that Murphy stunk it up in his last few games, but remember that he had an injured throwing shoulder. You can't bash him for going out there and doing his best. You should be giving him extra credit and bashing the coaches for putting him on the field in that situation.
I think doing this solely on his "pre-injury" games (which also happen to be the weakest competition) is cherry picking at the very least.
I was impressed with what Murphy could do early on but I think what we saw later was that he probably wasn't a D1A caliber QB.
When have you ever heard of a QB playing with an injured throwing shoulder? Seriously. Of course he wasn't a quality QB with a bad throwing shoulder. Peyton wouldn't be a quality college QB with a bad throwing shoulder.
I think the extent of his injury has been largely extrapolated to match the results (and simultaneously discount the large discrepancy in defensive valor)
Driskell will be unseated after our 6th loss of the year. Harris will be moved to runningback and Grier will delcare his intentions to transfer this summer.
Driskell must've transferred because I see him nowhere on the roster.
Perhaps... But he very clearly became less accurate throwing the ball even with no pressure and wide open receivers.
One of the silliest posts I've seen in awhile. I know it's the weekend, but be careful with those tabs, dude.
Its like he cant hold it in anymore and hes just wet all over himself.
interesting join date he has btw considering the nature of his vapid remarks. im guessing nole