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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Jaggator, Sep 11, 2013.
Suitcase might be headed to the Longhorns
So, was Fluker's twitter account not actually hacked when he tweeted this in April?
Color me absolutely shocked that anyone could ever be lying with that go-to-excuse.
The paper trail in the yahoo article is pretty damn serious. This could turn into a Reggie Bush thing for Bama.
I am curious as to how long Yahoo sat on this. Isn't it more then coincidence that this story comes out right before a Huge Game with A&M?
No way they were the only ones looking into it after that Fluker tweet in April.
While I'm sure they took the time to make sure they dotted their i's and crossed their t's, I doubt they sat on it for too long and risked letting someone else beat them to a bombshell that they had to assume others were also looking into.
It just seems like to perfect a timing for such a big story to come out with the Big A&M Game coming up this weekend.
Seriously...not much "wiggle" room here
If the NCAA can't enforce this they can't enforce anything.
Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SEC players
Rand Getlin and Charles Robinson 20 hours ago Yahoo Sports
Among the records authenticated by Yahoo Sports, in chronological order:
• An email to Davis dated Jan. 15, 2013, from Angela Pennington – the mother of Fluker's former Alabama teammate Kyle Pennington – seeking help recouping expenses she allegedly incurred on behalf of Fluker's mother, Annice. The email included auto-generated security information linking it to First Community Bank in Chatom, Ala. Pennington's Linkedin page lists her current job as vice president of operations at a Chatom, Ala., branch of First Community Bank.
I dunno the texts sound kind of made up to me.
Fluker looks like he could whip some a$$. No wonder he was so valuable to them. Try and block him.
Did you really just say the B word?
The only way college players will ever stop taking money from agents is if they become unable to play in the NFL if they are found to have done so.
There's a reason he was the #1 OT coming out of HS...
I'll bring this up again, since nobody responded to it: how is this different from the Tank Black situation?
There may be some details that are different, but the essence is pretty much dead on.
We had no title to vacate........:joecool:
Unless I am very mistaken, the difference is that in the case of Tank Black the UF Compliance Department discovered the irregularities, investigated, and reported full disclosure to the NCAA. It did not take investigative journalism to make the university look into why its players had unusual affluence.
In the Reggie Bush case, not only did Southern Cal not investigate what should have been obvious, but also the coaches were aware of an inappropriate relationship between Bush and an agent, and the university stonewalled journalists and NCAA investigators.
In my humble (and, yes, biased) opinion, Alabama will also likely clam up and give the NCAA and media as little access as possible. They certainly don't want any scrutiny of, for instance, the unusual affluence of Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson during their days at Alabama. I think what D.J. Fluker did or did not do is the least of their problems if the trashcan lid comes off their unethical, win-at-all-costs program.
The article I linked doesn't seem to suggest that Black was originally discovered by the university. Could be reading it wrong though.
Also, schools have self reported and faced vacated wins before. Were Tank Blacks situation provable by the NCAA (seems a safe assumption), today's NCAA would vacate any win where an implicated player participated (after receiving benefits obviously).
This is one of the main problems with the NCAA - they aren't consistent.
EDIT - this article also suggests differently:
Foley was already fielding questions about Black prior to the university hiring a research firm to look into the matter. Florida's police department's findings are what brought this issue to light due to a case involving Blacks transgressions as an agent.
Also interesting, because of a 3 year statute of limitations, the police department could not get sworn statements from players involved prior to 1998. I'd imagine this meant the NCAA wasn't able to prove anything other than the players from that one season.
I wonder if we can next get him to tweet about all of the miracles of modern chemistry generated by the Alabama strength & conditioning staff ...
Thanks taipan and REM. I still find the details sketchy, but maybe it's just the end of a long work day. It seems that UF had to react upon gaining knowledge of Tank Blank, which would be the same thing Bama et. al would have to do. Not trying to stir the pot either. I just want to know more about how the policy works, as UF was considered to be a model of complicity wrt to Tank Blank.
From what we know so far, I don't think there is much difference between Tank Black and the current Bama situation (as long as Bama jumps on it and does a good investigation). Didn't USCw get hit because 1) a coach was involved/had knowledge and 2) they stonewalled?