Breaking: Latest College Scandal Involving Several Schools

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    Don't know if u can find it or post it...but yahoo sports just posted the article containing the evidence mainly against Alabama's DJ Fluker which to me is far more than they have ever had on anyone.
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    Here the thing....is the school in trouble if they had no reason to know and did take steps to try to ensure compliance? The same exact thing happened to us with Tank Black in the 90's and the sows were just convinced that we were going to get slapped with probation and have to forfeit a bunch of games. The NCAA came in and investigated and....gave us a letter of commendation for running a model compliance department. We didn't forfeit a single game. The sows were beside themselves. :laugh:

    Same thing could happen here.
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    Former players also implicated include Tennessee's Tyler Bray, Maurice Couch and Mississippi State's Fletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis.
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    If true...Fluker would be deemed ineligible and all games he played in are forfeited. That is my understanding....basically like Marcus Camby at UMass and Derrick Rose at Memphis (both bball examples).
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    They NCAA should outsource its investigative work to Yahoo Sports... they break every story like this.
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    I forgot but Miss State and UT are already on probation. Wonder what happens now since this just came out about these players...probably nothing because the NCAA is a joke.
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    Double secret probation for them.... :ninja:
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    Just think: Instead of Bama's fanbase claiming 43 national championships, they'll only get to claim 42 now. :grin:
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    They can all hide out in Trent Richardson's momma's big new house in T-town... :cool:
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    You're right... some of the time at least. That's the NCAA for ya. Duke won a title with Corey Maggette, who was later discovered to have received impermissible benefits before enrolling in college, and the NCAA closed the case saying that there was no reason to believe that K or Duke should have known anything about this.

    Enter their dealings with Calipari and they decide on the concept of "strict liability." This means they don't care if you knew or should have known or had ZERO way of knowing anything about it - ineligible is ineligible. Cal was actually given letters by the NCAA quoted as referring to him as "an innocent victim."




    The circumstances uncovered in this piece by Yahoo are, sadly IMO, probably the case some of the time at most every school. Its rare that it ever comes to light. Even rarer that there ends up being proof. This appears to be one of those most rare times.

    If true, and the NCAA is consistent with its recent precedent (HUGE if there), then it would mean any game played in by any of these players after the date on which impermissible benefits can be proven will be vacated.
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    I was breathing a sigh of relief no Gators were on the list (or at least weren't caught)
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    Yeah more like that in parenthesis. :wink:

    Nothing surprises me anymore...Wait til Hernandez writes his tell all book from prison or tells his story to someone on the outside that writes it for him.
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    Wasn't Tank Black aiding (more like stealing, as it would turn out) several Gator players on the '96 NC team. I know UF's Compliance Dept. was lauded for the way they handled that, but didn't they handle it after the fact? I really don't know all the particulars, but obviously our NC was not stripped.
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    Strangely the NCAA has never had a problem with going after Alabama. They've creamed them repeatedly, while other high profile schools never get rung up. For instance, they dropped the hammer after the bs Antonio Langham incident (primarily because he applied for the 93 draft and then changed his mind - for which Bama got probation, scholarship reductions, a postseason ban and had to forfeit wins).

    OTOH, FSU got three times caught doing much worse - including institutionally coordinated cheating - and never got hammered half as bad. Hell, Alabama got 21 scholarships cut when the NCAA magically decided what Ronnie Cotterell was doing in Tuscaloosa was illegal but apparently wasn't when he was doing the same things in Tallahassee. Things SOS repeatedly and bitterly complained to the NCAA about.

    Notre Dame and Grandma Holtz got caught funneling tens of thousands of dollars to Demetrius Debose. The result? Probation but no sanctions. Hell, Holtz (got four schools on probation) and Bowden (three major infractions while head coach at FSU and one when an assistant there, responsible for the most vacated wins in history) are statistically two of the most corrupt coaches of all time, but both are idolized as folksy fonts of football wisdom.

    Duke and NC are clearly the analogous sacred cows of basketball.

    So expect the NCAA to crush Bama and to continue to let UNC and Roy Williams do whatever the freak they want.
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    1/2 game suspensions for all involved. Nothing to see here.
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    I agree with your point. I've always described it as being as if at one point someone decided which schools were going to wear white hats, and which ones black.




    Dan Wetzel just wrote something I wanted to disagree with - but can't.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf-...ain-reveal-folly-of-ncaa-rules-210822795.html

    The whole thing is worth a read. He sums it up as suggesting that its not the rule breaking that is the problem - its the rules. Well, the rules are what they are right now and its the schools themselves that agreed to them. Puts the NCAA in an interesting situation coinsidering how scattered they've been over the years.

    A guy on twitter asked the question that if 50 yahoo-like websites went on investigating 50 different big name schools, how many of the schools would have something tied to one of their current or players implicated? He guessed the number would be "closer to 50 than 40."
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    They will still count it and the school won't give back the trophy. Do you really think a little thing like cheating matters? I know you were joking but Bama is above all this NCAA stuff. Do they even recognize the NCAA? Do they even recognize the SEC?

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