Boehner: This is no damn game

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  1. Row6

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    Unfortunately that is true as escalating political stunts to this level is neither as respectable as a game nor as meaningful in outcomes. What is noteworthy in this quote in reaction to some White House operatives statement about winning - while ignoring Rand Paul's similar quote made in private to McConell - is that it is typical of republican strategy now where "gotcha" politics and 1984 style rebranding of the event is all that is left. Like decrying Obama's refusal to "negotiate" they are left with trying to sell the idea that they are the victims of this event, which is wholly of their making. If the phrase "chutzpah" didn't exist we'd have to invent it.
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    Speaking of game playing:

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    Both sides are playing games, and we're the only losers. Can we just recall/no confidence the whole lot and start over?
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    row- your boy could end this and has stated publicly he will not negotiate

    Boehner is offering to fund everything including preaBO care if prezBO will agree to a 1 your delay in the personal mandate like prezBO gave Corporations and also take away the 72% perk preaBO gave Congress for prezBO care- sounds not only reasonable but fair
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    That's the thing, he truly could. But he apparently has to do whatever it takes so that those damned Republicans don't "win."
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    Delaying the mandate = delaying incentive to enroll = stalling until after the midterms = one more GOP shot to kill it before people learn to like it and get used to it
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    It does actually sound rather reasonable, but I'm still not sure that this compromise doesn't represent an example of black mail. It's a tough decision to decide to reward a group for defunding the government because they want to win a battle that they lost fair and square. When Cruz is the president, are you going to be ok with the dems shutting down the government, until the capital gains tax is raised? Of course not. That issue was already decided by legal process.
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    To be fair, the republicans could truly end this as well, by simply allowing laws that have already been passed to be enacted, but apparently they have to do whatever it takes so that that damned Obamacare doesn't "win". I'm not really sure why we should see Obama as being in a unique position to end this.
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    true rade- but then we also have the issue of a prez acting outside the Constitution making changes to that pass and signed law to the point that the law that was passed and what is about to go into effect are not the same law
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    Perhaps, but who should decide if this claim is true? I imagine that the constitution does not charge the opposing congressional caucus with this task. If what Obama is doing is illegal, there should be a legal recourse, no? And if not, there should be a legal recourse to create a legal recourse. I just don't think we want to set a precedent where the opposing party is allowed to decide the legality of laws passed primarily by the first party.
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    Boehner could end this by allowing the House to do their job and vote on the continuing resolution which the Senate passed and sent over to the House for a vote.

    The purpose of negotiating is to get enough votes to pass the bill. There are already enough votes to pass the bill. Therefore no negotiating is necessary.

    The number keeps changing, but I think we are up to 24 House Republicans who have said that they would vote for the continuing resolution if Boehner would allow it to come before the House for a vote. The bill can pass with as few as 17 Republican votes.

    Why isn't Boehner letting the House do its job?
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    it does rade and the pubs out of fear of the race card have sat on their hands-which only emboldens these clowns

    I have zero faith in Boehner's leadership but he is what they have


    phil did you get furloughed

    if you have a position on a subject that you feel is worth fighting for then you fight for it
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    You start a fight then blame others for hitting back.

    Cruz leads the idiotic and blames away.

    Boner wont let the house vote on anything that will pass the senate.

    Yet it is theit fault when they dont vote for things we all know they wouldnt while
    our economy suffers
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    look at some point we have to hope our side will take a stand and not allow libs to continue to steamroll us into total socialism
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    Cutting off a leg to cure an ingrown toenail isnt my thing.

    Win the Senate and Whitehouse and you do stop your boggieman.

    Hurting America worse with your cure isnt much of a plan and may
    have the opposite result.
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    The premise from the OP is just so ludicrous. Our President doesn't govern. It's all slimy politics and games all day every day. What a joke.
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    American laws have been changed since 1776. Women were not allowed to vote. Blacks were not allowed to vote. Abortions were illegal. Sam and Bruce could not marry. Ethel and Francine could not marry.
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    But what is more important, (1) stopping liberals or (2) following the established government process? If you answer #1, then you implicitly support liberals also breaking constitutional protocol. Sometimes you lose, and this happens to both sides all the time. This is how the government was designed.
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    They only care about winning.

    When they win, it's all "sit down, shut up, we won."

    When they lose, it's all "hey, give us what we want anyway."

    It's an unprecedented arrogance level.
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    here is your sign...


    in other words, "we know it sucks but we know whats better for you, like it or we will shove it down your throat"

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