Birthers Score A Slam Dunk

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    Then post them please, I haven't seem them yet. Oh and by the way Hillary is the MOTHER of the birther movement.
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    I have not taken the time to read the whole thread but did look this up-

    Children born overseas out of wedlock[edit]
    There is an asymmetry in the way citizenship status of children born overseas to unmarried parents, only one of whom is a U.S. citizen, is handled.
    Title 8 U.S.C. § 1409 paragraph (c) provides that children born abroad after December 24, 1952 to unmarried American mothers are U.S. citizens, as long as the mother has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of at least one year at any time prior to the birth.
    8 U.S.C. § 1409 paragraph (a) provides that children born to American fathers unmarried to the children's non-American mothers are considered U.S. citizens only if the father meets the "physical presence" conditions described above, and the father takes several actions:
    Unless deceased, has agreed to provide financial support to the child until he reaches 18,
    Establish paternity by clear and convincing evidence and, while the person is under the age of 18 years
    the person is legitimated under the law of the person’s residence or domicile,
    the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
    the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
    8 U.S.C. § 1409 paragraph (a) provides that acknowledgment of paternity can be shown by acknowledging paternity under oath and in writing; having the issue adjudicated by a court; or having the child otherwise "legitimated" by law.
    Because of this rule, unusual cases have arisen whereby children have been fathered by American men overseas from non-American women, brought back to the United States as babies without the mother, raised by the American father in the United States, and later held to be deportable as non-citizens in their 20s.[9][10] The final element has taken an especially significant importance in these circumstances, as once the child has reached 18, the father is forever unable to establish paternity to deem his child a citizen.[11]
    This distinction between unwed American fathers and American mothers was constructed and reaffirmed by Congress out of concern that a flood of illegitimate Korean and Vietnamese children would later claim American citizenship as a result of their parentage by American servicemen overseas fighting wars in their countries.[12] In many cases, American servicemen passing through in wartime may not have even learned they had fathered a child.[12] In 2001, the Supreme Court, by 5–4 majority in Tuan Anh Nguyen v. INS, first established the constitutionality of this gender distinction.[9][10]
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    This.

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    I don't necessarily think the idea that he was born in Kenya was crazy but the time to vet someone is before they get elected the first time. Yes, the media willfully ignored a lot of Obama's past but, here's the thing, Obama is a lame duck with very little political capital. At this point, the best way get rid of Obama is to ignore him.
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    Here's the relevant text of the constitution,
    "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

    Does "natural born" mean born on US soil or does it simply mean that you're a citizen from birth?

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