'Birther' Orly Taitz: Ted Cruz Has 'Basically the Same Issue as Obama'

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    Can Tebow be president?
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    Yep, Timmy is good to go. :)
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    wrong,

    he's not at least 35 years old
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    Good point, indeed.

    Although, I wasn't thinking that jdr was asking if he could be president today. Otherwise, we could have also responded, "wrong, there is no election today". :)
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    How do you know? Have you seen his birth certificate? Not the longform one...or is it the short form.

    In any case, Gatorade is right about my asking...it was more joke than anything...but I can't even raise an eyebrow about Ted Cruz after years of ridiculous Obama birther stuff.

    Orly Taitz is off her rocker.
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    if I read the statue correctly Cruz is an American Citizen because he was born of an American citizen who had permanent US residency

    prezBO was supposedly born in Hawaii and his Mother supposedly was an American citizen and who supposedly had permanent US residency-just threw it the word supposedly to rile up the libs-

    there is no difference
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    No, actually no matter how much you keep repeating the contrary I do understand everything you're posting.


    The difference in opinion is the bolded areas from G Romney citation I provided which seemed to say the CRS opinion makes your point moot.


    "In a paper in November aimed at clarifying presidential eligibility, the Congressional Research Service declared that the practical, legal meaning of "natural born citizen" would "most likely include" not only anyone born on U.S. soil but anyone born overseas of at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen."

    If that opinion cleared G Romney it seems it would apply to Obama also.
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    :laugh::laugh:
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    IF he truly was born in Hawaii, which his bogus Photoshopped "birth certificate" does NOT prove.

    Cruz was born 10 years later with different rules that are unambiguous as to his being eligible, with REAL documentation.

    What his father did before he was born is irrelevant. Cruz himself is no fan of Castro. The sins of the fathers don't transfer.

    We can probably find Cruz's college transcripts, too. ;)
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    As a matter of fact, yes. They have. It is a requirement to be eligible to play college sports. Odd how its not a requirement, however, to be the President of the United States.

    I know. Go figure.
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    quite amazing, really.
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    My only interest in the original birther suits were about 95% "hey, this is an important constitutional question, who is it that can challenge this sort of thing" and about 5% "wha? There is a question of his birthplace/citizenship". The first question, of course, got a Brian Anger quality punt by the courts, and the second has been answered to my satisfaction, in the way almost all CTs are -- too much would needed to be done perfectly, and all too speculatively.

    I still find the near total opacity of Obama's personal story pretty incredible, though -- especially since he has farted out a pair of autobiographies before having ever really done anything. He has no old buddies that remember him to the press. He will freely acknowledge repeated drug use, but his academic writings and records are concealed. Most people go the other way with that, right? Like, here, yeah, you can read my term paper on European colonialism, but I am not going to talk about my partying?

    It is like someone turned Jenny Everywhere into a dude and said 'go be President'.
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    Exactly. In fact, as I have said in here MANY times, Obama --IS-- the president of the US. It is important, however, to remove the ambiguities that arose from the process NOW before the next election.

    I still can't believe that we can elect a president (any president) without so much as verifying his background, when we, as a society, can't even board an airplane without undergoing more scrutiny than we give our president.
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    I'm not sure about this. I certainly haven't investigated Obama's past like those on the right have, but I'm not really seeing anything remarkable about it. Looking at his wikipedia page, there looks like there is more there about his childhood that I remember about my own. And just as much, if not more, early life info than I see at GW Bush's, Clinton's, and GHW Bush's wiki pages.

    And this academic writings and records are "concealed" mantra is very misleading. All of that data is private for all of us. Have we ever seen the academic records for our presidents? I usually cannot even get access to my own students' academic records, let alone a stranger's. I think there is some weird misunderstanding going on here.
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    If this is ever proven Obama will end-up in jail for fraud.
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    there you go.

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