Bill O'Reilly on President Obama and Race. Does Anyone Disagree?

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    Seems pretty logical, although I wouldn't say it had much to do with Obama.
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    obob- prezBO presents himself as black-then he espouses the usual lib mantra of how oppressed blacks are instead of admitting that it is time for them to get passed all the pre 1970 misdeeds and tell them it is up to them to improve their comminities
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    Only that what he was espousing was pretty much the preacher preaching to the choir. There was this thing called the 2012 election (yes it was pre-TM) and it said we don't care. Especially if the message comes from a middle aged or older white male sounding conservative.

    We are on a track and it is not going to end well. Mass repudiation of their so called leadership would be a step in the right direction. listening to old white guys really isn't going to lead to much.
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    Ultimately though the question is: who is responsible? When people say "black leaders" don't address X, Y and Z I think they're just taking a safe bet there. I specifically remember Obama addressing missing black fathers on more than one occasion. My hunch is that the demonized "black leaders" like Sharpton and Jackson have done likewise.

    To me, hearing "black leaders" say "stay with your girl and your kid" isn't doing squat to fix that problem. I mean it's nice for Obama to say it, but it's nothing more than a gesture. So while I disagree with the premise that the problem is ignored, I'd say the current tactics are not particularly effective.
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    We watched that segment live and interestingly, Juan Williams agreed with Bill on this. So before the lefty libbie Obama knee pad wearing defenders jump on this thread, know that Juan Williams (One of the Fox libbies) agrees with O'Reilly.
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    Past has shown that publically disagreeing with whatever Bill O'Reilly says is hazardous to one's career success.
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    What tactics would you consider?
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    No idea. I don't find rhetoric particularly successful, though.
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    You do? Link?
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    Sorry but but Juan is hardly a Libby.
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    The reason many black women in the projects have babies is to get guvmint dollars. We can start by fundamentally transforming the welfare programs in this country. If we keep throwing money at problems we are going to keep failing. Big problems are not solved with cash. They are solved by people who CARE, and leaders that show the way forward. But liberals want to keep enslaving black people so they can continue to enrich themselves when they get re-elected. Corruption rules.
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    It absolutely should not scale indefinitely. Any such welfare - if it exists in a way similar to today - should have metrics for personal & family improvement tied to it.

    We can't just hand people money and hope they'll eventually figure it out.
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    If compared to the nutty fringe left you see in the media & on this board I would have agree with you.
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    If you really want to understand what the problem is watch MSNBC's response to OReilly's talking points the next couple of days.
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    I think the reason they have babies is because they confuse having sex with being cared for. Very few have a male role model in their life (dads either dead, gone or in prison) and they fall prey to the sexual charms of a neighborhood ne'er do well who takes advantage of them and then either leaves, gets arrested or dies.

    Wash rinse repeat for generations.
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    i read people making the claim, but I don't know if it's true. have you spoken to a lot of them to understand the reason they keep having babies?
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    Stop the subsides at two children. Require community service for those physically able to do so. No worky, no subsidy. Stop paying women not to marry the father of their children.

    Have a good black Christian friend (60 years old & a successful business owner) whose 20 year son was recently murdered by another black person. He was shot in the head while texting on a bench. Never saw it coming. Donnie and I had some spirited debates before the election.

    At the funeral the "family" side of the church had 200 people. (What a remarkable experience). Later I asked him where so many people came from. He has 11 kids by 8 women of which he married 2.

    His excuse was that he was young.
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    My wife works with several black women at the local hospital who have expressed their disgust over women they know who openly admit that's why they continue to have illegitimate children. These coworkers are great conscientious employees who are actually made fun of for having a real job.

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