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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by eViLG, Dec 22, 2013.
A little '04 bias here
Green should have returned for his SR season. He might have had a the breakout years that Wilbekin & Prather are having, as that team lacked leadership and consistency. Might have changed his legacy at UF.
Wilbekin being a better defender, not that Green was bad at all, but Scottie could be in "elite" status by the end of the year and work his way into the draft.
Best shooting team
X-Man Team - The effort guys you just want on your team
1- Wilbekin, Green
2- Beal, Brewer
3- Miller, Parsons
4- Lee, Bonner
5- Horford, Noah
Humphrey rarely gets credit for his defense.
Also, I'll take Green as my PG on the best shooting team.
PG- Lucas or Appleton
SG- Halton, J White
C- Kwame Brown
How'd I do?
You left out Drejer.
Defense is often overlooked, Lee Hump was tenacious on D and we all know he was a 3pt assassin.
PG-I'm breaking ranks and putting Wilbiken and Green at 1a and 1b, Williams career at UF was too short. Fast Eddie Shannon never gets a mention but was remarkable.
SG-Humphery, can anyone name someone else you would want to take a three with the game on the line. Funny how Kenyan Weeks is never talked about. Walsh gets bumped for poor defense.
SF-Miller-all due respect to Corey, I would actually put Beal in this category but give Parsons a slight edge for third. Bumped Beal for only staying a year.
PF-Horford,Bonner was so close-great shooter Harvey gets a downward bump for length of time at UF.
C- Haslem-never gets as much credit as he should, Noah was great and I can live with either one.
I can appreciate what Green's teams accomplished but switch the two players and the 06 and 07 teams are even better and the others worse with Green. Calathes single handedly carried his teams.
There is a problem that in the Billy D era we don't really have a classic "5". Instead in good times we have a stretch 4 and a normal 4. Bonner and UD are the perfect example. It was beautiful to watch.
Noah and Horford are so off the charts about normal that we can't even discuss that issue. Neither is a stretch 4 nor a classic 5. but they melded into a really great team.
Erv deserves mention for best point guards at UF. IMO, Wilbekin is the best defensive guard I have seen at UF in 40 years.
There was this guy whose points no longer count but when they did he was second behind Pistol Pete with the most career points in the SEC that was pretty awesome on D. And that was less than 40 years ago.
If that's conjecture then so is every other opinion on this board.
Sure. I disagree with your main premise, though. I don't think hypothetically switching Calathes for Green helps the national championship teams, nor do I think it hurts the NIT teams. Green was fully capable of carrying a team; he just didn't need to. The NIT teams were terrible defensively, and Calathes was one of the main culprits.
Amen...not even close.
I disagree entirely.
And I totally disagree with you.
TG was a great PG surrounded by unbelievable talent. Nick was a better PG surrounded by much lesser talent.
it's all based on your interpretation of "best"... mine is winning... so that is easy... Green, Humphrey, Brewer, Horford, Noah
I find that to be poorly reasoned. If this were tennis or golf i could agree but basketball is a team sport. One of the PGs had the benefit of playing with three lottery picks and the best shooting 2 guard during Donovan's tenure. And it wasn't Calathes...
Of course. It's a team sport.
Green did have the benefit of playing with the most talented frontcourt in college basketball. But, at the same time, the '07-'08 team wasn't talentless. That team had talent. A lot of it. And, for whatever reason, that team was significantly worse than the sum of its parts.
We were flat-out awful defensively when Calathes was here, and your defense starts with your PG. I'd take Green over Calathes all day long.