Best UF Players by Position in the Donovan Era

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    Had a discussion on another message board about who would make the All-Donovan team. Horford at PF and Noah at C were the only unanimous choices.

    The top 3 by position looked like this:

    Point guard
    1. Jason Williams
    2. Taurean Green
    3. Justin Hamilton
    Calathes and Dupay were also in the discussion...

    Shooting Guard
    1. Bradley Beal
    2. Lee Humphrey
    3. Peep Roberson
    I thought Beal should have stayed at UF one more year...turns out he was more than ready for the NBA.

    Small Forward
    1. Corey Brewer
    2. Mike Miller
    3. Chandler Parsons
    Final Four MOP, NBA Rookie of the Year and UF's only SEC Player of the Year.

    Power Forward
    1. Al Horford
    2. Matt Bonner
    3a. Donnell Harvey
    3b. Chris Richard
    Couldn't leave CRich off the list.

    Center
    1. Joakim Noah
    2. Udonis Haslem
    3. David Lee
    If Speights had the work ethic of Noah or Haslem, he'd be #1.

    Thoughts?
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    Good thread. Have I seen it somewhere else?
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    Possibly...then again you're extremely old and can't remember stuff.
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    I thank Lee Humphrey was the best shooting guard ever for UF
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    Brett Nelson the underclassman was prolly the best shooting guard BD had.

    And Brett Nelson the the upperclassman was prolly the worst.
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    We probably need a little more clarity for the criteria.

    Best shooting guard from a career at UF standpoint would be Lee Humphrey, best shooting guard talent would be Bradley Beal

    Jason Williams was a better player than Taurean, but I'd rather have Greene's 3 years than Willaims 20 something games
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    My list was based on talent moreso than career achievements.

    If we're ranking guys based on their UF careers, JWill, Beal and Harvey don't make the list.
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    Yes, one must specify the criteria.

    Fist of all, Beal didn't play shooting guard for the Gators, he was forced to play the 3, so, he could be in the SF discussion (and a tough group that is), but not the SG competition.

    As far as PGs are concerned, Bret Nelson, during his first two years, was certainly one of the best, if not the best of all. Unfortunately, SEC coaches figured out how to defend his 3, which substantially reduced his contributions his last two years. Mike Miller only played for 2 years, Beal and Harvey only 1, so, if you are giving credit for a player's best years, which apparently you are, then I think one must include Nelson's Sophomore season.

    Bonner and Parson's latter years were substantially better than their earlier ones, and Noah contributed little as a frosh, much like Prather. However, Miller and Haslem were significant from their first games.

    So, if I were to judge the "better" players in Donovan's era, I would limit it only to play at Florida, and limit it to their best year. That way, you can more clearly identify specific players.
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    Well, that too.
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    I like this post. It seems to me that we have some great ones at 3, 4, and 5. Consistently good but not great at 1 and 2. That is weird given Billy D's pedigree but I sure there will be disagreement with my observation...
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    Fit that team absolutely perfectly
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    1) Jason Williams/TGreen
    2) Bradley Beal/Humphrey
    3) Mike Miller/Brewer
    4) Joakim Noah/Haslem
    5 AL Horford/Lee

    Honorable mention: Nelson, JHam, Dupay, Calathas, Walsh, Peep, C-Rich, Big Pat and KB.
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    With all the talent Billy has had here, this is really hard to believe. Just goes to show you, Billy Ball is Team Ball.
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    Prather may warrant some consideration by the time this season ends
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    Actually crew. Old age is not the problem with remembering things, rather it ties to other factors. Some people can't remember anything when they are 15 years old, some remember almost everything at 95 (for example, a friend of mine's aunt who is deadly at Pinochle among other games, because she remembers every card that is played).

    I also have a 55 year old friend with an eidedic memory.

    The thing about memories, and the research is absolutely fascinating, is that almost no one ever remembers what actually happened. Memories are all jumbled with beliefs, emotions, traditions and numerous other factors. The police well know that if you get 50 eye witnesses to an event, you will get 50 different stories regarding what happened.

    Now, frequently, details will escape a person, and, of course, as one's memory contains more details as one ages, the possibility of forgetting specifics necessarily increases due to nothing other than an overwhelming mass of specifics.

    Now what we term Alzheimer's, and what we term senility, both of which are likely merely a lack of chi/prana flow up the spinal column, which occurs with most non adepts, interfere with one's function. One recent neurologist, speaking about the widespread research on memory stated: "Memory appears to locate nowhere, and everywhere." What prompted this is the fact that every part of the brain has been removed, yet memories remain, although, apparently, new memories cannot form if one's hippocampus is taken out.

    So anyway, it ain't age per se, it may be factors like interest, concentration, focus, or senility.
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    Are we talking college only? It looks like NBA time might be coloring your rankings.
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    Calathes > T Green
    Miller > Brewer
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    Best College Players

    T.Green
    Beal
    Miller
    Horford
    Noah
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    I would take Green over Calathes all day long. Much tougher, and an ice cold assassin down the stretch, particularly from the line. No stage was ever too big for him.
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