Be real: WM is staying. So, who's 2014 OC?

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  1. Wormwood56
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    I hear ya, but that doesn't answer for the losses to La-Monroe and UAB. If someone is going to beat Muschamp up for nearly losing to La-Lafayette, then Saban needs to be mentioned as well for his ACTUAL losses to mid-majors.

    Point being that even the best coaches lose or nearly lose to bad teams. Saban's examples are above. Spurrier lot to Miss State and Auburn teams nowhere NEAR as good as the teams he put on the field, and nearly lost to Vandy during his only MNC season. Meyer loses to a 4-loss Ole Miss team at HOME with his 2008 MNC team?!?

    In 2007, Michigan lost to Appy State, yet finished their season with a win over Florida. Virginia Tech lost to JMU, then ran the table.

    On Any Given Saturday. Yet the only time one sees this argument used is when one wants to beat down a disliked coach. The argument is rarely used against coaching gods...
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    using saban's first year to counter arguments about muschamp in years 2 and 3? Not logical. Saban will have 4 titles in 5 years---whatever he did in year one apparently worked.
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    Bite me.

    Championships.
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    Ahhhh! WORMWOOD the voice of reason (and stats). I think alot of it has to do with there isn't a whole lot of parity among fbs teams anymore, and hell the fcs teams are starting to field talent and shorten the gap as as well. Between the amount of talent coming out of high school and having scholarship limits the days of bear Bryant teams or just havingall the talent going to a handful of schools is fading. Between network tv deals with schools and conferences, sponsorships, easy schedules, early playing time, academic requirements or lack thereof kids are starting to branch out to schools that are hardley considered contenders.
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    Tied for the most in the last twenty years with Nebraska and Alabama.

    Buy a clue.
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    So, if any one of Stanford/Pitt/USC had made a play or two, or gotten better officiating and beaten the Domers and we went to the BCS CG last year, would all be better?

    Or just if we had pulled the upset on a much more established Bama program?

    Getting there was outside of our control, as it was for two of the three championships we won.

    Win or lose the BCS CG last year, how would the direction of the program be different today? Our recruiting is what it is, and that's pretty darn good.

    Our currently healthy experienced talent level is what it is... and that is very thin. Against this schedule, we really shouldn't expect a strong W-L record, given all the attrition and injuries. No team this thin succeeds against this kind of schedule.

    Our current OL performance is what it is, and that is horrible... and I think that is the real issue here. There is no way we should be this poor on the OL, and we have to fix it. With a decent OL, we'd be a decent team now. Still not a world beater, but much easier to watch and accept.
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    Not Joker. He couldn't lead Ky to squat and he wouldn't get anybody excited.
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    Why not? guys are using muschamps 6 losses his first season against him. Only counting years 2 and 3 would mean he has gone 15-4 in his over the last 19 regular season games. Not to bad. And you cant compare season 2 and 3 together with Saban's because year 2 was identical lost 1 regular season game and then lose to a unheralded smaller conference team in bcs game and season 3 saban didnt lose over half of his starters. Pretty damn similar years 1 and 2. Year 3, meh not so much but had saban lost mark ingram, greg McElroy, marquis maze or who ever their most experienced WR was maybe it would look alot like this year for us.
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    I don't know enough about other OCs to name somebody but I'd just look at the teams that are in the top-20 or so in total offense and see which of their OCs might be enticed to leave and which would make the best fit.


    But it's going to be tough. Few good OCs want to leave their present jobs for one that could turn out to be a one or two year job.
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    They certainly would not have beaten us in the 2009 SECCG if they were as riddled with injuries as we are this year.
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    which is the reason I wont be shocked if they just keep the same staff.
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    Muschamp has zero of those as our HBC. He hasn't even sniffed the SEC title. Stop living in the past.

    As for our next offensive coord? Poach the playcaller from Indiana, Baylor, Oregon.

    There are 100 Div 1 schools with better offenses than ours to choose from.
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    You're right, he only sniffed a BCSCG, hes terrible...
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    He never realistically sniffed it because he didn't beat UGA and get us to the SEC title game.
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    Name 5 coaches in the last 25 years that have came to a "broken" program and won a natty by year three? Living in the past? Try living in reality.
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    If USC beat ND we would have played for the title. Year 2, with a broken program.
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    People are trying to compare muschamps failures this season to one of the best coaching stretches in the history of college football. 3 titles in 4 years with the possibility of a 4th this year is unlikely to be replicated any time soon.

    Funny thing is their first 2 season are pretty identical. Yr 3 who knows how it would have went had that evil witch not cursed our players. Lol.
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    Didn't need to beat uga (though I wish we had) like gatorchamps said had the condoms out west beaten the dames we would have walked into the bcs title game ala alabama 2011.
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    How many won by your boy wonder in charge? NONE. ZIP. NADA.

    KMA.
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    Actually I agree with all of this. There is no excuse for our offense being this bad for this long.

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