Bay Area Protestors Block And Vandalize Tech Buses

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  1. gatorman_07732
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    Is that the only cool part of town in Cali? I would have loved to live where I'm living in my 20's.
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    When you choose to rent, that's one of things that you sign up for--possible rent hikes. You're at the mercy of the market. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. And if you don't like it, take your sorry a$$ to Dallas or Houston and throw a brick through a bus window to protest the next thing you find unfair. Then watch all the pistols come out and see the lead fly.

    Liberal parents have a hard time telling their kids that life is unfair. This is how you get organizations of imbeciles like Occupy Wall Street and these idiots.
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    Then they should have bought their homes... I personally don't like renters becasue they are (in fact, where I live) trashy neighbors... much more often then the owners are. And most of them have loud ass dogs that bark all the freaking time! Screw the trash...
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    So if the median rent went up 27% in two years to $2800 that means it was $2200 which was already ridiculously high. Apparently the Occupy thugs didn't mind others being priced out of the area but now that it's them it's "unfair".
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    Just shows how quickly they'll eat their own!
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    Sought after hipster neighborhoods are always those undergoing gentrification. It's ingrained in hipster DNA. It's the, "I saw that arena band back when they played bars" / I'm ahead of fashion mentality. It's what they value and I have no problem with that, but they have no right to access it or for a particular neighborhood to not change. They're 20 somethings; move to the next neighborhood on the rise.

    Besides, they're fighting for something they'll loathe in 5 years.
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    so why not rent control like NY? I mean if they love gubmnt intervention why wouldn't they let the gubmnt set the rents?
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    How?

    Edit: I thought you were talking about homeowners... I see we were talking about renters. They do realize they are RENTERS? correct?
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    by increasing their rent beyond what they can afford. I would imagine it would also impact property taxes somehow but not sure about Ca property taxes
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    I'm sure Ca. has some kind of Save Our Homes program like Florida with a 2-3% cap rate hike each yr. (which doesn't even keep up with inflation)
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    If that's true - and I suspect it is - the progressives on the bus are getting a taste of progressive thought put into action by those outside the bus. Pretty funny, provided that nobody actually gets hurt.
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    Hey, congratulations, you've figured out that "progressives" aren't all exactly the same.
    Hopefully a few others on this board figure that out too.
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    No... we've known this for a long time, and the Progressives are also for living with the rich people... as long as they don't have to pay rich people's prices for their homes they rent...
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    They are very "progressive" with other people's stuff....not so much when it hits their wallet..
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    Hmmmm....
    One side says " I want to live where you live and I am willing to pay what it takes to do so." ..
    The other side says "I want to live where you live withoutnpayingnas much as you have to. It's not fair."
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    and, so, what is your point? happened in florida beach towns, happened in central florida, happened in ft myers where taxes got so high many couldn't afford the property taxes and moved, it is the way of progress-which seemingly, progressives have issues with, odd really.
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    I don't know why it's odd to you that some folks would have a problem with being priced out. I assume though that you already know there is a difference between progressive as a political philosophy which traces its roots back to the late 17th century and progressive the adjective, right?
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    i don't think anyone should find it odd that rent or home prices escalate as economic advancement occurs, it seems obvious to me. thus progress, in this case economic progress is being looked down on by those who identify with the modern (last 10 years) progressive party. that was my point that a party of "progressive" ideology looks down on and protests progress by those that are not themselves
    I can find no info on the american progressive party in the 1600's, only indirect recollections from the 18th century europe. the progressive party from the early 1900's bears little resemblance to what is called progressive in the USA today. the progressive party i am referring to is a recent incarnation of an old name, not the old philosophy.
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    is NYC the only place with rent control apartments?
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    I agree no one should be surprised. My point was though that if one lives in an area that goes through rapid social and economic change and winds up being forced out due to the area becoming too expensive, it is perfectly rational to be upset about it. This is a common and perfectly reasonable feeling to have.

    As far as progressives, the point is that the word is different than the political party, whenever the 'party' began or whatever it is now. You seemed to suggest that just because progressives tend to seek social change (for the good) that it would be odd that they are upset. But that is just a reductionist view of progressivism.
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