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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by Diesel350z, Aug 18, 2014.
I hear something....I do believe I hear noise in the system, urbs...
Chances are that none of the current Heisman hopefuls will win. There has only been one preseason hopeful to win it since 2007 and that was 08 with Bradford.
I agree (except for Mizzou), but Notre Dame has no extreme mid-major creampuffs while Florida has three. This means that any star with a boo-boo doesn't have to play until the fourth week against the Vols, and I doubt they really have to even play then.
But Stanford is probably every bit as good as Alabama. USC is probably as good or better than USCe. Louisville and Georgia would be a damned good game. Don't know about the rest.
I'm not. But not all SEC schedules are tough. Why don't folks bash Alabama's schedule? Because they are an SEC team? Go look at Miss State's schedule...
They do. I've read several critiques of Bama's weak schedule here. I just don't see how UF's schedule fortifies any argument for FSU/OSU schedules as compared to Bama's.
Because Florida is the SEC exception, not the rule.
I could be the qb at tosu and win a ton of games with their schedule.
Could you do it at Alabama?
Florida may be an exception in the SEC, but that does not mean SEC schedules are not "the rule." In fact, SEC schedules tend to rule.
Real Time rpi has SEC #1.
And we were talking about Bama's schedule, yes? You are correct that Bama's schedule is arguably easier than those of OSU and FSU. . . in 2014. This instance, however, may very well be the exception, not the rule. Let's look at the Sagarin SoS ratings for the past ten years, noting that this comparison reflects a greater degree of validity in comparing Bama/OSU/FSU schedules.
Year Bama FSU OSU
2013 39 62 58
2012 19 66 60
2011 15 68 30
2010 14 18 70
2009 2 3 50
2008 28 48 46
2007 30 22 53
2006 30 39 38
2005 59 30 2
2004 73 29 35
Avg 30.9 38.5 44.2
Bama's schedule was not only more difficult on avg; it was more difficult than both of those teams in seven of the last 10 years.
Did Bama's starting quarterback get hurt? You know, the guy that gets all the reps with the ones? Not to mention Bama doesn't rely solely on their passing game. Their quarterbacks are more game managers than winners. Don't get me wrong, they get some solid quarter backs. But more often than not, it's about pounding the living chit out of you with their insane stable of monster backs and roid filled O linemen. Braxton Miller is a huge part of OSU's offense.
Look at all the QBs Meyer has had, they've pretty much all been spread guys that brought both to the table. (Run/pass option) from Tebow to Cam to Driskel. Even Alex Smith could/would run it quite often, making him another duel threat QB. All those guys, especially Tebow/Cam, accounted for most of the offensive numbers. I don't have the stats, but I'm sure you do and will be more than happy to prove me wrong.
Ahhh, Sagarin. The Voice of God! I assume this includes bowl games, when Bama played top teams at the end of the year?
It wouldn't be hard, as they haven't figured out who will BE their quarterback, but my point is that Alabama's schedule is also cupcake this year. Why not mention THEIR schedule? That is, if YOU could run the spread option at OSU because of their "weak" schedule.
I love how an Ohio State University plays one team in the preseason top 25.
We play FIVE of the top THIRTEEN.
Oooooh! And we ALL know how accurate those preseason polls are. Where were we ranked last year again? ROTFL!
I flat guarantee you that those five teams will NOT be in the top 13 at the end of the year, which is the only time rankings matter.
Agreed. But as a starting point it shows how weak aOSU's schedule is AGAIN and how they need to beef up their OOC schedule.
Wormwood, is it Urban or the Buckeyes you're so fond of?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see how all of these teams play during the year.
Interesting that you cite Sagarin when it suits your argument, but when someone else points out useful facts, he becomes "The Voice of God!"
Why not include bowl games? That SoS measure included bowl games for OSU and FSU too. The three teams' schedules were measured on equal ground.
The end of the story is that Bama's schedule during the past ten years has been more difficult than the schedules of FSU and OSU. Not sure why you can't simply admit it. Well, actually, yes I am.
In fairness, our average starting position for the game against USCe was almost on their side of the field. We didn't exactly have to travel very far.