Backlash over prezBHO giving up control of internet

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tion-decision-to-relinquish-control-internet/

    But some voiced concern that the move could create confusion, and the possibility that unsavory actors in the international community would try to seize the reins. Of particular concern is whether Internet domain names would eventually come under control of a government less committee to free speech than the United States.

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich took to Twitter on Friday to sharply challenge the Commerce Department's decision, warning that it "risks foreign dictatorships defining the internet."

    "Every American should worry about Obama giving up control of the internet to an undefined group. This is very, very dangerous," Gingrich tweeted.
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    Nothing this clown does surprises me anymore. This move reminds me of Carter giving up the Panama Canal several decades early... for no reason at all. That was a strategic and military mistake, IMHO.
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    I remember when conservatives were opposing net neutrality under the premise that it was "government control of the internet."
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    So now more government is good?
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    Fox has been blaming Obama for this for the past week. The reality is that this has been in the works for 16 years.

    Where have all these outraged Republicans been on the issue since 1998?

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    how has that harmed the U.S.?
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    Net neutrality is what they called it/said it was... they also said we can keep our insurance and doctors too.
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    Revenue from running it $$$$, for starters.
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    Obama has to be the most spineless, worthless POS ever to hold our highest office. What were people thinking when they voted for him?? An unproven empty suit and now we are reaping the results of those two foolhardy elections. Putin and the rest of the world is laughing at Obama and us. But Obama's goal of destroying American Exceptionalism is one of the few he appears able to accomplish.
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    For everyone flipping their wig in this thread, I'm curious how you think this is a bad thing? Do you think the US government somehow controls the Internet now?
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    Zerobamao is not spineless in this matter. You have to understand his world view. He does not see the USA (neither does his fat a** wife) as the best or a good nation. He does not view us as a nation that should be first as an economy, a world leader for peace, or a proponent for liberty.

    He wants the USA to be less and other countries (NOT Israel - he hates Jews- or Europe- he hates Euro white people) to be more, to equalize the world.....like his "fairness" doctrine.

    He has for 5 straight years worked (though he is inherently lazy) to impair the USA economy, weaken the nation, to slowly bring about a World Govt. A World Govt that places the USA simply as one vote, one equal vote in the governance of all nations along with Kenya, Libya, Egypt, India, Pakistan, Mexico, Cuba, etc.
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    This thread is hilarious.
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    Can anyone who thinks that this is a bad thing actually articulate what NTIA not renewing its IANA contract with ICANN means as a practical matter?

    Or explain why taking actions that line up clearly with the policy that the US has been articulating ever since NTIA signed the ICANN contract in 1998 (that the US intends to transfer IANA and DNS oversight functions to private stakeholders) is now suddenly a problem?

    Or whether anyone understands what NTIA's position on not allowing its role to be transitioned to any governmental or inter-governmental group, consistent with the bipartisan concurrent resolutions that passed both houses of congress last congressional session regarding avoiding governmental control over the internet, actually means?

    Didn't think so, but don't let me get in the way of some good faux-outrage.
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    So is this bad? Is it bad for America?
    Short answer: that depends. From a truly technical point of view, the Internet has generally been operated quite successfully by the coordinated organizations who have been running things all these years.

    There are two gotchas. The first is that countries like China and Russia may try to have a disproportionate influence in the operation of the Internet that would have otherwise been kept at bay by US government watchdogs. The second is that some of these governments are considered rogue nations and operate their own Internet-based criminal, terrorist, and hacking activities. They might gain an entirely unwanted foothold in Internet governance.

    On the move-out-of-NTIA side of the argument is the fact that the Internet is now humanity's network, not just a service of the US government. Planet Earth operates on the Internet as much now as ancient societies operated on the seas. We all (and I mean the global all, not just the "my fellow Americans" all) rely on the Internet and we all need it to run reliably and securely.

    Another fact is that, despite the headlines, the US is not giving up control of the Internet. It's been pretty much out of the US government's control for years. Sure, the US government could -- in a fit of apocalyptic desperation -- pull the plug on the authoritative root zones, but that's beyond unlikely given how much America itself relies on the smooth operation of the Internet.

    Besides, if things really go bad, America has some very sweet bombers and some really big bombs. I'm not advocating. I'm just sayin'...

    On its surface, then, this change is not necessarily a bad strategic decision on the part of our generally useless leadership. It's just the continuation of a process set in action well over a decade ago, and which has been proceeding with reasonable success over the years.

    There is an issue though, and it's the issue that is a subplot among every Internet story these days: can we keep it safe and can we keep the schmucks out?

    If the root zone authority is operated by highly-respected professionals, no matter from what country, we should be fine. But if the bad guys, the rogue nations, or the various nasty lobbying interests get their hands on it, we're in for a world of hurt.

    http://www.zdnet.com/analysis-what-...us-giving-up-and-is-it-bad-or-not-7000027366/
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    Come on. Fox said Obama's doing it. Don't you think that's good enough?
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    American exceptionalism is a myth, tex.
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    I find it sad jdr that you believe that
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    Hm, yes, seems rational.
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    It does appear that some people still think "exceptionalism" means the state of being good or exceptional, rather than being above the rules we expect other countries to follow.
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    what makes this country exceptional is how it was founded-the liberty and freedoms that were our basic premise and that we were endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights-life liberty and the pursuit of happiness-the history of the world is filled to the brim with despots and dictators and this country has thrived without either- the US was built upon the framework of our Constitution- now it is my belief that prezBHO wants to destroy the very document because he does not believe it is fair-he is the pied piper and so many including a lot on here have drank his Kool-Aide and believe they cannot accomplish anything without the guvment doing it for them
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