Auburn will steamroll the noles

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    The girl's school top 3 runners averaged over 6 yards a carry. That opens up the passing game. I think AU can stop the run game, and add occasional put pressure on Winston -- that could make all the difference.
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    Yeah, they have rushed well, but it all comes back to who have they freakin' played? Miami is bad. Clemson is decent, but overrated. That's it. That's all we have to go by.

    AU's D-line is actually pretty good (young but full of stars). If they can get pressure on Winston, I like our chances. If not, well, it will be a shootout.

    Ellis Johnson has had a month to scheme. I like the prospect of everyone being rested, prepared and improved (especially in the secondary). You can accomplish a lot in what basically amounts to a free spring training.
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    Wilder had 6+ ypc against us and we had a pretty stout run defense.
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    At that point of the season? By the final game we were banged up, and packing bags for the off season.
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    Stop o'leary..he's key n their wr offense.
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    Thank you. I can't believe that this happens almost every bloody year. Some of you guys are like a dog that gets kicked, but then forgets about it and comes dutifully back to the kicker only to get kicked again. Let's look at this thing since the SEC became the undisputed king of the hill. Nothing that happened before 2006 is irrelevant. But, since we are in the "SEC dynasty" period, I think we should focus on that period, since it is the most relevant. It all started in ....

    2006 - Ohio State v Florida. Ohio State had the Heisman Trophy QB and Florida was castigated around the world as not being worthy of being in the game, while OSU was being hailed (and by a lot of "experts") as the GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME. The SEC schedule had hardened the Gators, while the easy Big 10 schedule had not hardened Ohio State. Florida toyed with the Bucknuts after the opening kickoff return. SEC wins.

    2007 - Ohio State v LSU. Even with two SEC losses, the SEC schedule had hardened the Tiguhs, while the easy Big 10 schedule had not hardened Ohio State. LSU blowout. SEC wins.

    2008 - Oklahoma v Florida. The question was, could Florida possibly slow down the GREATEST OFFENSE OF ALL TIME. This was a good game for more than a half, but that greatest offense never really got untracked. the SEC schedule had hardened the Gators, while the easy Big 12 schedule had not hardened Oklahoma. SEC wins.

    2009 - Texas v Alabama. Bama was going to win this game anyway, but Colt McCoy's injury sealed their doom. Probably the least impressive exhibition of the superiority of the SEC because of the McCoy injury, but Bama was superior and had played the tougher schedule, and.....SEC wins.

    2010 - Oregon v. Auburn. Another game against the GREATEST OFFENSE OF ALL TIME. Auburn, with one real stud on offense and one real stud on defense pulled the upset because the SEC schedule had hardened the Tigers, while the Pac-10 schedule had not hardened Oregon to the same extent. The Pac is a good conference, but its not the SEC. SEC wins.

    2011 - n/a

    2012 - Notre Dame v. Alabama. Most thought Bama would win, but it was gonna be a classic because Notre Dame just may have THE GREATEST DEFENSE OF ALL TIME. Hahahahahahaha. Huge mismatch. Bama players supposedly were laughing at the Notre Dame players in the videos they were watching in game prep. - which infuriated the Bama coaches. They had seen better teams and players among the "have-nots" in the SEC. This one was over the night they were paired for the game. Are you kidding? SEC wins.

    2013 - fsu v. Auburn. OMG!!! fsu has a Heisman Trophy QB, and, and, and they're really good! And Auburn lost a game in the SEC, and, and, fsu is favored by over a TD, and, and fsu has punked every team they've played. OMG!!!!They may have THE GREATEST OFFENSE OF ALL TIME!!!!! The SEC schedule has hardened the Tigers, while the easy acc schedule had not hardened fsu. SEC wins.
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    Our defense was very good but it was apparent they pretty much gave up all hope once FSU got ahead by 2 scores. I'm not saying they weren't trying, but you could tell they lost the fire they started the game with because they knew our offense was incapable of bringing us back.
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    I know this sounds right, but really, all evidence points to FSU having stout lines on both sides of the ball.
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    Not necessarily stout,just superior to ours at this current time.
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    Auburn played the following BCS conference teams:

    Opponent----------Total Defense-----Rush Defense---------Total Yards Gained------Rush Yards Gained

    Alabama...............................5th.........................11th......................................393........................................296
    LSU.....................................20th.........................43d......................................437........................................213
    Miss State...........................33d...........................48th....................................459........................................120
    Ole Miss..............................44th..........................53d.....................................375........................................282
    Georgia...............................47th..........................42d.....................................566........................................323
    Mizzou................................69th..........................50th...................................677........................................545
    Arkansas.............................77th..........................78th...................................366........................................233
    Tennessee............................81st.........................100th...................................479........................................444
    Wash State........................102d............................85th..................................394.........................................295
    Texas A&M.......................105th.........................105th...................................615.........................................379

    Average..............................58th...........................62d.....................................476........................................305

    Auburn the last five years:

    Year--------------Opp Total Defense------Opp Rush Defense

    2013....................................58th...........................62d
    2012....................................40th...........................38th
    2011.....................................29th...........................47th
    2010....................................35th...........................45th
    2009....................................38th...........................53d

    SEC defenses were weak overall this year, at least those SEC defenses on Auburn's schedule. The only strong one was Alabama, and they did well against the Tide, as they did against most of their opponents later in the season.

    Florida State has a top 40 defense, even in the SEC. Against top 40 defenses, Auburn averaged a respectable 416 yards/game. Against defenses as good as Auburn's, however, Florida State averaged 552 yards/game. Against top SEC offenses, Auburn allowed 541 yards/game. Of the top offensive teams Auburn faced this year, only LSU had a decent defense, and they lost to LSU.
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    So why did Florida lose to FSU in 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2000? Wasn't Florida hardened enough?
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    And a number of other teams.
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    Pretty sure he narrowed his post to the streak beginning in '06.

    So you respond by inquiring about 2000, and before???
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    So according to your stats Worm, there is no point in playing the game. let's just crown FSu champs and be done with it. In order to disprove the poster about the SEC champ being ready to play, show us the last 7 NC and how the stats ranked ahead of the game (not what the talking heads were saying).
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    You know, a lot of times when you have two very good offenses going against each other in a big bowl game like this one a lot of people will say it's going to be high scoring and then it turns out it's a lot more lower scoring than one thinks. A lot of times this is because both teams really do a lot of defensive film work and with a month off, a team can lose some momentum, plus, coaches tend to get a little more conservative and not take as many chances in their game plans because the big trophy is on the line. Both teams also have to shake off some rust from not playing for so long too.

    I for one thinks the month lay-off tends to slow down the game offensively and is more advantageous to the defenses.

    It's the team that rebounds the best from the lay-off that will win it IMO.

    I think it can go either way and that turnovers will play the key role, and if fsu turns the ball over twice, AU's ground game could be the deciding factor. They can contol the clock and field position game better than fsu's quick-strike offense. I think fsu is vulnerable to the run, especially against a team like AU's with a VERY good OL and potent ground game. That said, AU's secondary is their weak point and that plays to fsu's advantage, as the nolies have their rapist phenom at QB with three very good receivers.

    I saw UF's depleted DL get pressure on Winston more than enough to think AU's very good DL, which is deeper and healtheir than our's, can take advantage of fsu's OL and pressure Winston. Also, I've seen AU take on one good team after another and beat them, and I have watched fsu play and beat really only one good team on the road, Clemson, which still has it's weaknesses. fsu can pass, pass, pass all they want, but if they can't run the ball, they won't win this game. You're not going to win this game without the ability to run the ball well.

    Some points will be scored of course with two such good offenses, but I think the score is probably a little lower than most expect, and that AU wins this by wearing down the fsu defense and keeping the Rape-SU offense off the field with their run - game.

    Auburn - 34, fsu - 27
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    Wilder had 6+ ypc against us and we had a pretty stout run defense.

    Stout run defense? Gator D gave up 450 yards rushing to Ga. Southern.
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    What I keep hearing from nolie fans is that if fsu wins, then the ACC is a "dynasty" conference. LOL fsu is the ONLY ACC team that's won an NC since they officially began playing in that conference in 1992 . How do you call a a conference that's had ONE team, the SAME team too, win the NC a couple of times, or possibly three times in a 21 year period?
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    I didn't say anything about a "stout Gator run defense". Don't know what you're talking about here.
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    The Noles have such an inferiority complex! FSU is a really good team this year, but the ACC is and has been a joke for decades.
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    I didn't say anything about a "stout Gator run defense". Don't know what you're talking about here.

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