Are Boehner and Cruz going to do serious harm to the Republican party?

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    I've got a feeling the public at large is fed up with this politics as usual.
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    If that is so then why haven't the Pubs overridden Obama on spending and started funding what they want?
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    There are those who call themselves Christians around here who must worship at "The Church of the Divine Hate."
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    Indeed. I think he's confused where appropriations must orginate with "total control of spending."
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    In baseball the center fielder covers more area than the right or left fielder.
    In politics those not on the far right or left is where more votes are found than either wing.

    It does hurt the party when fools take us too far from the center.
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    Cruz's ideology did not put GWB and the GOP in the Chithole..

    The premise of this Op is interesting.

    McCain and Romney are anti Cruz style Republuicans and lost big.

    It is hilarious that the GOP blames Cruz and his like for thier shortcomings and the a$$ kicking they have been taking from the Dems.

    If it was up to the standard bearer RNC/GOP, The Dems would control the house, Sen and Potus.

    The Dems hate the T party because it is the only group of quasi republicans that has beaten them in 8 years. meanwile the GOp blames uses them as a scapegoat to avoid facing the reality that the GOP is so marginalized that it is almost out at the federal level.
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    When did Cruz run for President...

    Romney had to beat a sitting President which is always tough.

    Rush told his minions he would not vote for McCain and
    his cult followed.

    McCain has won many elections in the senate...more than Cruz
    if you want to compare apples.

    More in the middle wont vote for the Tp than Rush ran off
    when he helped elect Obama.
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    Rush?

    A radio guy is the GOP's problem? LOL

    It was Rush's policies that sunk GOP/RNC/GWB. That is rich.
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    I don't think Rush caused the GOP to lose but neither do I believe he helped them one whit.
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    Exactly, as far as electoral politics he is a non-factor. That would be a asinine way of swaying your vote. I think people that sway back and forth voting across party lines are voting their wallet first and foremost.
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    Losing the Rushjob votes didnt help and with the electioral college
    who knows what the outcome could have been.

    Now those who failed to vote for the party sqeal the loudest
    over the result

    I voted McCain over both Bush and Obama. I was right both times
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    Losing the Rushjob votes didnt help and with the electioral college
    who knows what the outcome could have been.

    Now those who failed to vote for the party squeal the loudest
    over the result

    I voted McCain over both Bush and Obama. I was right both times
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    LOL, yeah McCain is a real winner alright.
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    The Tea Party endorsed 16 senatorial candidates in 2012, and went 4-12.
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    About the premise of the OP, I think that after the 2012 election (yes, the choice was mediocre at best) the general population pretty much said that they don't want to be bothered with complicated stuff...and they want the free stuff to continue. Okay, maybe not free stuff but for the Federal Government to continue to fund a vast public trough to keep businesses viable. The problem is that we can't continue at an annual $1T over-cost rate.

    But the message is pretty much ignored. So they have two choices: be a permanent minority party and espouse principles that are out of favor with a majority of the population or they can get out in front of the electorate. And that means they are going to have to "out-Democrat" the Democrats. Not very good alternatives for those of us who want the ship to get righted.

    And if Boehner and Cruz decide that being ruler of a small faction of crazy people (not my idea but if they do) then that is the American Way. Not much different than Jessie and Al. JMHO
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    I have issue with just about everyone in Washington. Google search George Washington's prayer journal. You will see a man who prayed before making decisions and spent time talking to God about the issues he was facing. I don't think this goes on in DC. A few here want to say Obama is a practicing Christian. I am not one to judge if he is or is not, however, I have seen nothing to make me think he puts God before himself. You can't run a country that was founded "one Nation under God" the way this guy has. I'm not saying the opposition is any better, but he carries himself like he is the one that makes it all happen.

    The media does not help either. They make this shutdown sound like it's the end of the world. It's not. If you polled business owners around the country, I bet most of them would be for it. As a country we should be praying for our leaders and ask that they include God in their decisions. I could go on and on, but just don't believe we are going to be blessed as a country if we do not put Him first.
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    "One nation under God" was added to the pledge in 1952.
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    No they aren't.

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