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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by largartos, Dec 29, 2013.
Louisville 36- SCUM 9. Steamrolled!
Did someone make a similar thread about Louisville and the SEC last year? Just curious.
This thread is retarded considering we lost to both Louisville and UM.
Also Louisville is joining the ACC next year so I guess that'll upgrade that conference. Miami is bad though.
The ACC is 3-2 so far and that doesn't include LOU or partial member ND who both won. To put that in perspective the ACC was favored in 2 out of 11 bowl games. And the ACC is already 3-2.
The ACC has a long way to go to be considered a great football league, I agree with that, but if FSU beats Auburn it will give ACC fans such as myself, few and far between, guys who actually like football more than basketball, something to feel good about and in a conference where the standards are exceptionally low things like this do matter. Beating teams like Cincy in the SEC would mean nothing. For the ACC, it is an accomplishment.
But, let's face it, if we are talking about the ACC's reputation it all comes down to FSU-Aub and Clemson-Ohio State everything else is just small potatoes.
Um......yea.......probably not a great idea for a thread.
No more "dumb" thread rating?
The ACC has two good teams. weak conference schedule allows Clemson and half-ass - U to save their players to be used when needed . In the SEC every week is tough and first teamers don't get a rest. so by the time bowls come around most SEC teams are pretty nicked up whereas acc teams are healthier.
ofmgator... I truly and sincerely congratulate you on this insightful post.
This IS exactly what happens in tough conferences like the SEC.
And it has been the case for decades now.
And it is something that many, many fans of college football ever rarely see.
Talk to any former players of ANY SEC team and they will tell you the same. They get beat up going after the LSU's, the Auburn's, the Georgia's and the Alabama's of the world. It may not be sprains to the knees and stingers to the neck... but by the seventh or eight game of the year, you are just bruised up and sore. Forget the bowl season... you are already feeling the effects.
By the end of October ..it is hard to walk to class... hard to even walk up steps.
Many fans do not realize that the reason that we play a weak foe the Saturday before Georgia or the Saturday before FSU is that we are not playing a weak team to get mentally ready for a tough showdown...
It is because we are just trying to get healed up again for the Georgia's and the FSU's coming up that next Saturday. And, if you are playing a close game later in the seasson, the coach wants his first teamers in there. Problem is, those first teamers are beat up but they don't want their position coaches to know that.
If a ACC team is playing an ACC schedule with SEC talent on their side... they will always be fresher come November. Very hard for ACC fans to truly accept this... but it is the fact.
(I had a former Florida teamate who transfered to Georgia Tech. A lot easier to play in the ACC than the SEC. And he flat out told me that you just don't get beat up as much.)
A prime example of this would be what happened to Driskel and Tyler Murphy this year.
So, if the SEC were to offer FSU a place in the SEC , would FSU elect to stay in the ACC?
If you are asking me, no, FSU would jump at a chance to go to the SEC. You can't say no to more money. Right now the ACC self hatred has died down thanks to the GOR agreement but, just below the surface, most FSU fans, a good 60-80%, secretly pine to be part of the SEC.
I like the ACC.
But no one would ask me. FSU would jump if offered.
The good news, for me, is the SEC is full. So FSU and Miami and Clemson and UNC and VT and GT and a few other programs and U's I love will stick together. It will get a lot better if FSU can end the SEC's NC run.
FSU isn't going to get an SEC invite so it doesn't really matter.
If the SEC expands again, it will be into NC and VA.... with NC State and VA Tech the most likely candidates IMO.
The ACC is definitely in stronger position from a long term viability perspective today than a year ago, though. Even if they lost two schools to the SEC, they'd still be still fine.
I think FSU likes the tomato cans more than the money. Quite frankly, Id like to see UF have more tomato cans too. Bowden was brilliant! Its amazing the Noles found a way to be bad enough to not be in a national championship every year with the pathetic schedule they have year in and year out.
Talk about glass houses...
Yes, the gift that keeps on giving. You cannot prove that whatsoever, and frankly, coming from you, this is surprising, as you are usually quite rational...
"We" .. Interesting coming from you.
UF tried for years to get fsu in the sec and nobody else wanted expansion. when expansion began fsu/bowden didn't want anything to do with the sec. you get what you pay for. i for one am so glad that ship has sailed!
So therefore the nicks and bruises from Vandy, Arkansas, Kentucky, the Mississippi schools, Texas A&M, Mizzou, the three directional schools SEC teams play every year, etc., are somehow more painful and enduring than playing Boston College, Wake, Duke, Maryland and Pitt?
I love your insight on the teammate, but that is anecdotal. Other players could say the same about the SEC, particularly if they came from an SEC West team that doesn;t schedule many BCS conference OOC teams. I doubt that playing Bama is tougher than playing VT (ask Saban; he'll tell you).
The Noles do have a weak schedule this year (we helped that), but over the last 25 years, FSU has had a tougher schedule than ANY SEC team except for Florida, having played more top 5, top 10 and top 25 teams. Only the Gators played a tougher schedule. That is a FACT.
If you play in a bowl before New Years Eve with the six win teams, the bragging for your conference wins mean you have a lot of teams that suck.
The SEC plays later against better teams so the early scoreboard is not something great.