An Honest Jeff Driskel Discussion

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  1. swampgator89
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    You are wrong. Those 4th down calls were horrid and I was sick of seeing us run up the middle with 8-9 men in the box. I predicted almost very stupid run play up the middle, and we got stuffed almost very time. I've lost faith in Pease unfortunately.
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    New to the forum, long time gator fan. I was expecting more progress from driskel going into this year, it still seems that he locks in on his number 1 option and if it is not there seems to panic in the pocket. For someone with such great athletic ability idk why in the world he won't take off and scramble more often. watching him attempt to go through progressions is often painful, he seems lost and confused. He had his moments where he looked good but its the same thing with his terrible pocket awareness and bad decisions in the red zone(going back to last season)
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    I'm still hoping for improvement from Driskel, but it doesn't help that we have to use three downs every time to get 10 yards because we are content with a couple 3-yard rushes. If Driskel's asked to convert that many third downs through the air, we're gonna have a bad time.
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    He has all the skill and potential in the world, but he is not doing a very good job with the mental part of the game. Our offense would be much better off with a QB like Alabama has had in the Saban era (maybe not the most skilled but high on the mental part of the game).
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    Perhaps Brissett would have been the better choice last year. With our defense and an average quarterback we could win all our games. By now Jacoby may have even developed into an above average quarterback. Hindsight.
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    Perhaps starting Tyler Murphy would have some benefit. Any warm body can hand the ball off on run plays. It seems easy to imagine better ball protection and passing choices from just about anybody.
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    The defense has bailed out our offense all last year and it looks to be the same this year.
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    Defensive coordinators are probably salivating at how to approach our offense.
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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/i30epKYLF6g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Driskel made a lot of plays, this got forgotten because he made mistakes. He was fearless...perhaps too fearless at times but without a doubt better than last year. A LOT of pressure came from Tyriq McCord on Driskel's blindside in the 2nd half after Humphries was taken out which has been a trend the last two weeks (strain MCL), It became more evident when they (Miami) keyed blitz's to that side. To compound things, Moore didn't have a strong game at all. We'll probably see a change in line production when Halapio comes back, we're healthier and have more bodies to rotate (we miss Chaz Green). While Driskel needs better pocket awareness his blindside can't be that weak. By the second half we were playing with a make shift line at times....very evident in the 4th (at different times C Jonotthan Harrison, LG Max Garcia, OT/OG Tyler Moore and LT D.J. Humphries were out). He stood in the pocket, took a lot of big hits and made some great throws. Every QB is going to miss some throws he just needs to be smarter in the redzone. Those two redzone ints were huge.
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    Great post
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    Shortening the game means limiting possessions and limiting plays. The longer a game is the more likely the better team will win. After all they are the better team. The shorter the game the more likely the lesser team can pull off the upset as there isn't as much time for the better team to take over.

    You can't think in terms of TOP.
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    Remember, too, that the ball needs to be in the air before those 'open' receivers become open.

    That anticipation and confidence the receiver weill be in the right place seems to be missing sometimes.
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    If I were a betting man, I bet Pease did not call a run up the middle on 4th down. My guess is he's been told to do that on 4th and short period. Unless JD changed the call.
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    This is absolutely not a rule you can apply to every team.
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    Yes it is. It's just basic sample size. Underdogs in every sport always try to shorten the game.

    It's the same concept as when people say we would have won 9 times out of 10 (not saying that about Miami, it was more like 6 out of 10). The point though is you are going to lose at some point, but if you play them enough times you'll easily win more than you lose. Why? Sample size. The better team prevails over the long haul. Same concept applies within a game.

    A team that is better would certainly prefer 15 possessions in the game over 10? Why? On each possession they have a certain expected value, more possessions equals higher value equals less likely to lose
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    I'm sorry, but you're only looking at one half of the game. Depth on defense, abilities on offense, these things factor very strongly into that. If you're turnover-prone, if you have a stellar defense and have issues scoring touchdowns, it would be an absolute disaster to try to "lengthen" the amount of total plays. Coupled with a very strong offense on the other side, and it would be a horrible gameplan.

    You're looking at this very simplistically, it's not analogous to sample size, particularly since you can do no such extrapolations on offense alone (and if you could, I doubt they'd show you what you believe you'd see).
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    Nice potshot at Driskel and Pease
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    And if I can take it further, we ran more total plays than we did in any single game last year. More opportunities (again, we're only accounting for one side of the ball) does not inherently equal more points nor necessarily TOP.

    A "better team" may be better by scoring once, limiting turnovers and playing stellar defense. In this scenario -particularly if it's an error-prone offense - increasing the sample size also increases opportunities for error, therefore breaking the strategic advantage.

    If you're a shootout style team, no question about it, you want the ball as many times as possible and as many chances to put it in the end zone. If you're not that type of team, it has the opposite effect.
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    Good post overall, but this is a great point that I think is getting missed. Its easier to try to find one factor that caused the loss, and in this case turnovers is the obvious answer. But that would ignore other issues, such as the running game.

    Less than 3 YPC is not productive. And the inability to run the ball in the red zone forced Driskell to try to make plays throwing the ball and that had devastating consequences. If we're going to be such a run-heavy team, those runs need to be more productive.

    Maybe O-line injuries contributed heavily to this. Maybe the turnovers (fumbles and INTs) were an anomaly and they protect the ball much better the rest of the season. But while JD needs to make better decisions there's issues beyond his play.
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    You are both right.

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