An email on Congress I received

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  1. HallGator
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    Some of you may have been sent the same email. I would like to see what the various takes on it are from our posters.


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    I have seen this and agree with every point. The problem, how do you get elected officials to cut their own perqs? It will take one person in the Senate from each party and one in the House from each party, (none of whom can have high net worth) who basically shame/embarrass their members into "setting an example" for once.
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    This is a check/balance the founding fathers did not really address properly.
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    Which I thinks speaks volumes to the fact that the founding fathers actually DID believe govt service was viewed as a...."service" and not a career. Therefore, they never expected or even envisioned in their wildest dreams that politicians would grab the power and bennies, and take it to unthinkable levels as they have all done.

    I could be wrong---those early guys who put our govt into play may have been crooks and corrupt themselves, but there is no way they were at the levels of corruption current govt 'servants' are now. They just flat out didn't see what was coming so it may not be fair to say they didn't address the issue properly---no one could have back then.
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    Brain wins! From the link:

    "..Billionaire Buffett gave an interview on July 7, 2011, to CNBC during which he made his statement. Even CNBC describes it as “not entirely serious (but not entirely joking either).” Here is the exact quote: “I could end the deficit in five minutes. You just pass a law that says that any time there’s a deficit of more than three percent of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. Yeah, yeah, now you’ve got the incentives in the right place, right? (Laughs).” You can view the video at http://tinuurl.com/6xo8yao.

    The viral email that contains the Buffett quote goes on to present “The Congressional Reform Act of 2013,” which supposedly is a proposed 28th amendment to the Constitution. Since it follows the Buffett quote, it is linked to him but, in reality, has nothing to do with Buffett. And, according to a check of Thomas.gov, the legislative database of the Library of Congress, no member of Congress has proposed any such amendment. Nor is there evidence that it has been proposed by any state governmental body..."

    http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...plan-lean-congress-over-deficit#ixzz2altGeDgw
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    I've said this before, but I actually favor three major changes

    * - term limits not to exceed 8 years
    * - a 1-term, 6-year limit for the presidency (has been proposed before, kills the campaigning president nonsense)
    * - no pension
    * - campaign finance reform
    * - a significant increase in congressional salary which we would easily be able to afford given the above changes. This would ideally bring in younger, more ambitious people with less impetus to do favors for election money.
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    Except for the 1st all seem good, though item 2 is something to maybe ponder.
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    Doesn't surprise me that Buffett didn't send it out or that it's not totally accurate. I was more interested in what people thought about the majority of the proposals and if they believe Congress has gotten to the point they forget who they are supposed to work for?
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    Whew, since i didnt get the email, worried for a minute there that Warren had taken me off his email list.
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    The only thing about a 1 term prez is he'd be a lame duck from the day he was elected,
    Who's the last to have a meaningful 2d term?
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    So, A US Congressman would have it way worse than a local city/county worker or millions of Union thugs?

    Awesome.
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    Or, an electorate bright enough to vote the pigs out?
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    When in doubt, I go with the old fogies who drew up that bad ass document in the first place...
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    They addressed it as their first proposed amendment to the constitution. Now it is the twenty-seventh to be ratified.
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    Define "worse." And why should they be able to do some of the things they do?
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    This is more emblematic of the current process than the fact that a term is ending.
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    OR, cut pay in half and allow them to work at their regular jobs and limit the house and senate to 2 (90) day terms (spring and fall like many states). They can do far less damage and will have a sense of urgency to do the people's business. Furthermore, require they live in the district they represent so they are not part of the DC bubble. Buy a Marriott for them to stay in while in DC and pay the tab.
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    This is a terrible idea.

    The role of representing us is one that should be very, very valuable and not taken lightly. They should not be splitting their time, nor should they be so attracted by money for favors.

    I'm all for paying these folks handsomely, assuming they do their jobs and aren't career politicians. It should be a very, very hard job.
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    Worse, as in they pay for their own 401k and no more fat pensions

    Which things?

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