An Alabama's family experience with the ACA

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    do i need to post the math scores? i mean, that was your original assertion. that cons are better in math. well, that just is not a fact. 'you can't make up facts.' (get it? if it's 'made up', then it stands to reason that it's 'not a fact')

    allrighty then.
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    You just don't get it, do you?
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    Yeah, listicles! Le'ts play us some tit for tat. Be warned, there's a trend to these links that might depress you.

    -Richest and Poorest states
    -Highest Income
    -Best and worst educated
    -Highest Math & Science scores (for you to not hang your hat on) :D

    Most of those states in your list tend to also be at the very top of many if not most other positive lists.... Why? Because this is where people are concentrated the most and where the wealth is. You are going to extremes to simply put down liberals but who knows, maybe it can turn into a good discussion?
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    math:
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    it's more than just:
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    bwaahahahahahaa!
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    Your lists are completely irrelevant. If anything, they actually prove my point. Pay attention and learn something here. A state can be wealthy or not wealthy based on the natural resources within the state, among other things. The length of time that a state has been established and populated can also have an impact (it is easier for a New England state to maintain its modern infrastructure than it is for a state like Alabama to develop it). Education is largely paid for by the state and local gov'ts, not federal gov't, so a wealthier state like New York has a clear advantage over a poor one like Kentucky.

    My list measures how well states live within their means. In other words, how responsible they are with money. (In other, other words, how well they understand the simple mathematical concept that what goes out of the system must be balanced by what comes in.) If they have more wealth, it should be easier to live within their means. Some blue states, like Vermont and New Hampshire, actually are above average in this regard. The majority are not. California by itself has the 5th largest economy of any NATION in the world. They should be able to balance their budgets with ease. They cannot, even with all their Stanford, UCLA and Berkeley graduates. They are infested with liberalism and immature thinking that leads them to spend more than they can afford to. Blue states aren't bad states overall, but they need mature people to run them.

    Your blue states have a lot in common with Donald Trump. The Donald lives high on the hog, but is worth negative several billion dollars. The banks don't dare cash in his chips and demand repayment of the loans because they might collapse right after he does.

    If you want a grownup to watch your money, take your chances with a republican. If you want to blow your money on shiny trains that no one rides, handouts to keep able-bodied people from working, and other useless pursuits, roll the dice with a democrat.
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    you ARE a glutton for punishment, aren't you, chem?

    ;)

    you're still wrong. you just keep wading deeper into..well...you know....
    you said, however many pages ago, that conservatives were better in math. you still haven't made your point. but you are providing some entertainment.
    if they're so good in math, or checkbooks, or common sense, (or whatever it is that you're trying to sell) maybe you can explain why the red states aren't so well off financially, and of course we know you can't explain the math scores being so low.
    that's a lot of....(here, let me use a word you'll understand) 'blathering' up there in your last post.

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    Claims to common sense might work in school yard debates among adolescents, but not where folks understand objective analysis. In any case, I'm too tired to debate the intricacies of public perceptions, but suffice it to say for now, your analysis employs fallacious reasoning on multiple fronts, yet again.

    Nice "50 year cutoff"

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    he's not holding his breath waiting on those 'apologies', is he?



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    You are doing a good job of turning wrong-headedness into an art form. I am wading deeper and deeper into . . . well, the truth.

    What makes you think the red states are not well-off financially? They are in nowhere near as much debt as a percentage of GDP as the blue states. I have already demonstrated that, convincingly. Did you not read that list? Final score: 13-4. Red states win. A lot of your blue states are in serious financial trouble. Do you not understand that? If they were well-off, they could pay down their debt. Or they wouldn't need to borrow so much money in the first place. The problem with the blue states, is that they are run by fools who are incapable of managing money. You know, democrats!

    All you are selling is foolishness.

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