not that it has anything to do with this thread, but what are those horrendous lies you keep on about? and did the lies 'that other guy' told, upset you as much? just askin. (i don't expect an answer to this above question. i've asked it before, and gotten no answer except "bush derangement syndrome" which i don't think i'll hear this time, since Obama derangement syndrome has reached epidemic proportions.) and i find it still funny that NO conservatives want to talk about 'that guy'. he was 'their guy', but he embarrassed their 'brand', and it was a rough 8 yrs, so he is (in truth) 'persona non grata' to them. however, we 'libs' aren't allowed to bring him up, even if its still relevant, which it is. not saying president o is perfect. none of them ever is. but he's not the godawful horrid criminal lying pos you guys refer to him as.