An Alabama's family experience with the ACA

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    On the bolded part--completely indisputable. There is NO WAY any liberal can deny that....(even though they most surely will.)
    There is no shame among them pa....they will defend him to the bitter end.
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    I assure you, we'll never know whether we'd still be attacking it or not. We'll never know. It will never work "as intended" because that's all it was put together with--good intentions, along with a healthy dose of rainbows and moonbeams. It was not put together with logic or common sense, or by anyone with any mathematical abilities.

    Obama, Reid & Pelosi have done the impossible--they have made GWB look like Albert Einstein.

    Incidentally, shabby, do you have any dubious anecdotes that demonstrate how wonderful Obamacare is AND are representative of the U.S. population? Because from where I'm sitting, at least half of the nation is represented by these anecdotal horror stories of Obamacare, and the number is growing.
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    Do you have a corporate human slaughterhouse near where you live, or are you just making up B.S.? You sound desperate to prove a point, BTW (and failing miserably). Obamacare will not help poor people get medical care--just be a grownup and admit it. Obamacare helps poor people say they have insurance, but that insurance is essentially worthless to them. They can't afford the deductible, so they will never benefit from their insurance.
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    Yes, 150 million people have ACA horror stories. You can tell this is true by the collective screaming going on all over the country.

    Outside of the conserva-bubble in actual reality, people are getting signed up for coverage and are getting their healthcare as we speak.
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    Again, other than the two starving artists on CBS News a couple of weeks ago, please give us some examples where this mess has worked for someone IN THE POSITIVE. Show us where someone has their coverage, has their cards, has not dealt with the copay /deductible issue, and had a good experience.

    When even LIBERALS are having bad experiences and are upset with the law/programs, you have to question how anyone can defend it for any other reason than defending it "just because."
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    There are success stories in the media all over the country. However, you won't see them on Fox.

    It's a little early yet for stories about how it's doing for administering healthcare seeing as how it's only been valid for 9 days.
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    As a side, I don't watch Fox. The only CNN I "watch" is what is on my Twitter line. Certainly don't watch MSNBC - too much skewing of stories to make either side look better/worse versus the actual news.

    You're right, it's too early. However, it's also too early to say the pundits were wrong on it and the "stories" are just "anecdotal". My story certainly wasn't on any news - it was personal experience.
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    It is way too early to call almost any story a success story (other than middle class people who were denied (or couldn't afford) insurance because of a pre-existing condition. All other stories are failures until proven otherwise. By the end of the year, poor people will really hate Obamacare. Maybe even by the first time they try to use their insurance and find out what a deductible is. Getting "coverage" is not the goal here, especially if people cannot afford to use their insurance.

    It's also a little early to count the bankruptcies caused by Obamacare, but they will happen.
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    The part I bolded and underlined is going to be...IMO...THE biggest shock for so many of the uninformed supporters who were sincerely under the impression that Obamacare was supposed to be provided for them...free of charge. ALL charges. I have overheard on numerous occasions, younger people who appeared to be students discussing how when Obamacare went into affect, everyone was going to have free healthcare. They were serious about it too.

    Being naïve is one thing--having the wool totally pulled over your eyes by the one so many thought to be their savior is entirely different. Bottom line--the country got scammed by The Great Jackass and it was all intentional.
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    Wait until they start getting letters from providers dropping them from their practices. There's very very few doctors that take Medicare and the like around here. Not a big deal in summer because realistically we're 20 minutes from downtown...but in winter? Like earlier this week? Not fun for a lot of folks I bet.
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    this isn't spam, this is a link to Kynect, as an example of how well the ACA works when your governor/state cooperates with the federal government. yes, virginia, we have a democrat governor.

    https://kyenroll.ky.gov/
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    It's an exchange site. Nothing in particular is standing out to me. How does that prove the ACA works better in KY than anywhere else?
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    i'm not gonna post all of the articles regarding how well its working here. it WAS all over the news, NOT just local news...our governor.
    all the ACA IS is an exchange site. it doesn't provide insurance. it provides links to acquire the best insurance for yourself and your family. that's what it's all about, that and a bit of regulation (no preexisting condition denials, or dropped for catastrophic illness) figured at least that part was understood by the general public by now.
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    While there will be some sites that work better than others, and definitely most state sites should function better than ANYTHING the Hussein regime puts out at the fed level.

    Having said that still doesn't change the fact that Obamascam IS AN EPIC FAILURE from the start. It was doomed in its conception, and has lived up to those very predictions and expectations.

    Period. Most horrid legislation ever conceived by a POTUS and a congress. It...along with Hussein....needs to be scrapped forever.
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    also, what i'm saying is if you didn't have a state bucking against the ACA, for political reasons, but instead, cooperation.....you'd have more success stories.

    difference is us in kentucky, versus a state that refused cooperation (florida)...as an example.



    "the worst legislation...ever"....haha. really? that's a bit over the top isn't it?
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    Imagine the look when you try to explain to them they have to open their wallets! :eek:
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    Yup it what's more disgusting is that ehealthinsurance.com has been doing this for years.

    It is comforting to know the GOV blew how many millions to duplicate something a capitialist already did, yet failed at it's implementation!
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    When all the dust settles on this mess, this will make every other bad piece of legislation look like a godsend compared to this. IMO, this goes way beyond being the worst--if for no other reason, the financial repercussions could be enormous unless things change drastically. Not only will this crap law be unsustainable because of lack of younger people signing up....add in the Medicare signups which is basically even more costs....considering the fact that employers are holding back on hiring more full-time workers because of ACA, which means lower income to people to pay for this "UN-affordable healthcare"....more and more part time workers which typically pay less anyway....the list goes on and one with the trickle effect here. Employers are NOT going to be helping this crap-ass economy grow at all. End result, that POS president has not only caused more people to end up either on the govt dole for free healthcare and losing what they had, but the economic effect will likely be catastrophic. And this from the Messiah who has said for several years he is laser focused on the economy....yeah, right. One fell swoop and he is helping to keep the economy from growing, while completely screwing up the entire healthcare system

    Sadly, the worst part hasn't even begun yet--just wait until the employer plans start getting axed and the majority of people who have been covered for years will find themselves without insurance. It is just the start now--and will get exponentially worse.

    YES....without question, this is the worst law to EVER be passed in this country.
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    worst. lol. ok, i'm sure that's cuz it's a liberal prez and semi liberal legislation (what the left wanted was a public option/universal coverage like most civilized western countries, not 'romneycare')
    anyhow, that's funny stuff.
    i'm just presenting the facts, what y'all choose to believe is up to you, of course.
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