America's Poorest Cities-(citizens below poverty level)

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    10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen?
    City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
    1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
    2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
    3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
    4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
    5. Miami , FL 26.9%
    5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
    7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
    8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
    9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
    10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

    What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
    Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list)
    hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961

    Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954

    Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) since 1984

    Cleveland, OH - (4th) since 1989

    Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor

    St. Louis, MO - (6th) since 1949

    El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor

    Milwaukee , WI - (8th) since 1908

    Philadelphia, PA - (9th) since 1952

    Newark, NJ - (10th) since 1907

    Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats .. yet they are still POOR.

    Hmmmmm
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    Oh, come on guys. You know this will quickly turn into blaming Bush, or the red states sucking off the govt teat, republican policies, blah, blah, blah.
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    It's not surprising that large urban cities that aren't one of the cultural hubs of America (NYC, Chicago, SF, LA), have higher rates of poverty

    And it's not surprising that you didn't list the Top 10 richest cities in America

    Napa, CA - Republican
    Boulder, CO - Democratic
    Boston, MA - Democrat
    Thousand Oaks, CA - Democrat
    NY, NY - Independent
    Trenton, NJ - Democrat
    SF, CA - Democrat
    Wash, DC - Democrat
    San Jose, CA - Democrat
    Samford, CT - Republican

    At least show some causation and not just correlation. :wave:
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    It would be interesting to study the leaders of these wealthiest cities over time. For example over the last 50 years, how many pub mayors vs demos. And BTW- NY's mayor was a Republican when elected, so that is 3 of 10 including the wealthiest...Samford, CT.

    And I guess we can take Detroit off the list as the Pub governor had to appoint outside governance to keep the city out of bankruptcy or perhaps guide it through bankruptcy.
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    Is there not a bigger difference in that he showed the history of the top 10 poorest cities compared to your list of current party control? Also the list you used had more to do with avg home value than any real data on avg income of its population.

    You also should consider that some of those cities listed benafit from celeberties, sports starts, and politicans that inflates their values.

    Lets not distort the facts!
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    i don't think it would be that interesting, you're reaching here

    as for Bloomberg, he would be the most liberal republican if I ever saw one
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    distorting, would be showing no causation, just correlation. A city population's wealth has to do with many more things before mayoral control.
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    Some people really need to look at maps of where wealth is concentrated in the country. Or even population, for that matter.
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    I agree 100%. State governor, situation of surrounding cities, and over all national economic health have a factor. However in those top 10 cities, the fact they have done the same thing over and over again can not be ignored.
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    you didn't research it? instead you just received an email and posted it? shocked.
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    um, yes it can in this regard...unless you want to show a direct causation between the politics of a city's mayor and the wealth of its people.

    a Republican is not going to magically increase the population's wealth in these cities with large minority percentages and where the wealth concentration of the country isn't

    you and the OP are stretching :yes:
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    any cons care to discuss in another thread the most impoverished rural areas in America and what they have in common?
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    :grin::no:
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    The wealthy were the enemy of Obama during his most recent campaign - remeber the 1% were base of all evils.
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    This really isn't the same thing, is it? Rural impovershed areas are likely impovershed because they're - well, rural. Now if you want to pick 10 cities of comparable size and population to the original 10 listed, who have all had Republican mayors regularly, and how that compares to this 10 non-rural list - that could be interesting and actually relevant.
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    If you haven't noticed - and why haven't you? - the OP list is made up of all - except for Miami - rust belt cities. This is a determining factor more specific and consistent than "rural" is.

    This thread is so useless I feel dumber for even posting in it.
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    ...and some correct spelling.It's Stamford, Conn.Samford is where Bobby Bowden went to college
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    "This really isn't the same thing, is it? Rural impovershed areas are likely impovershed because they're - well, rural. Now if you want to pick 10 cities of comparable size and population to the original 10 listed, who have all had Republican mayors regularly, and how that compares to this 10 non-rural list - that could be interesting and actually relevant"

    That is just as lame a comment as saying urban areas are impoverished because they're- well, urban.

    thing is---there are a multitude of factors that go into whether or not a city is impoverished.....

    But in terms of rural areas---theyt are rural and for the most part don't have the multitude of factors that urban areas have.

    Yet there are impoverished rural areas as well as rural areas without poverty.

    Care to do some checking to see the states with the highest incidence of rural poverty and the breakdown by red state vs blue state(in regard to legislatures and governors)
    here's a list with prominent numbers of people in rural areas who are in poverty(both whites and minorities). I am not factoring in Indian reservations since those are sovereign and governed under national not state.
    WV-red state
    La-red state
    Ms-red state
    Tn-red state
    SC-red state
    NC-red state
    NM(blue state)-
    and if you look at the local mayors, etc of the rural areas within those states the red/blue of the state would also be at that local level

    http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/ruralchildpoverty.aspx
    "Majority of Rural Poor Children Are White

    Rural poor children are more likely than the urban poor to be white. More than one-half (57 percent) of all poor rural children are non-Hispanic white, compared with just over one-fourth (28 percent) of poor urban children. Twenty-one percent of poor rural children are black, 15 percent are Hispanic, and 4 percent are American Indian or Alaska Native. Asians, who are highly urban, account for very few of the rural poor. There is no ethnic majority among poor urban children: 35 percent are Hispanic, 30 percent are black, and just 1 percent are American Indian/Alaska Native. "

    looks like that high rural poverty rate should be in red for the most part than in green.
    also looks like rich whites in those states are really screwing whites in regards to poverty

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