Alternative Candidate for Governor of Florida

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    Not to mention that Superfund is itself a government entity, which has the power to enforce accountability for the cleanup of hazardous waste, even when it's government.
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    Hiroshima was also at a time of war. Vieques was being used for test bombing runs for "war games" for the US military during peace in a property that was being "protected" by a US government entity charged with protecting it. So it's a bit different :)

    To their credit they are "trying" to clean up now that it had gotten world press over the years, but it's a sore spot. And it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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    So...government being accountable to itself? :laugh:
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    See, it is possible. :grin:
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    And actually the Love Canal superfund is about 15-20 minutes away, and that was back in the 70s (?), and we still have chemicals from that mess in our soil/water supply. We don't even live in Niagara Falls. Declaring "superfund" doesn't mean it's going to get cleaned up and taken care of, and if it does get taken care of it takes years and years to reverse what was done, or even fix it a bit. (yes, I know Love Canal was a private company issue - just discussing the designation of superfund not meaning it's going to get fixed)
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    It is definitely different, but ardent militarists would probably point out that these practices are vital to the effectiveness of these resources during war. I am personally not much of a war guy, but I understand the sentiment.

    I'm with you here, but I just mean that these types of tragedies do not diminish the value of national parks.
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    If anything, declaring something a Superfund site and making it the sole province of the federal government to do something about it all but metaphysically guarantees it's never going to happen.
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    For what ever it is worth I think Scott has done a dam good job. At least we are not on the verge of BK like states run by Dem
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    You are correct there :) National parks are a vital resource - Again, just trying to play Devil's Advocate and show government protection/involvement doesn't always save areas from issues.
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    Theoretically, not impossible, but in the real world impossible. The National Park System would not exist if the government didn't do it. This is not some kind of close call where Libertarians can pretend that our federal parks are just one way to accomplish the same thing through private enterprise. No, it isn't..
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    fla is in better shape than it was when he was elected. how anybody takes chrisp seriously is beyond me. i think money keeps a libertarian from being elected in such a big state, try wyoming or montana, could happen there.

    parks seem to be a hot button issue, never realized they would be from attendance that i have seen recently.

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