Al Qaeda prison break

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    You obviously didn't get the memo. Al Qaeda was defeated years ago.
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    Where is Obama and his redline when you need em?
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    Well they were in jail.
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    Jihadist suicide bombers were used to detonate car bombs at the prison walls to free the jihadist types inside.

    It's a totally weird hierarchy they've got going.
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    Very true, except for the mortar shelling, rocket propelling army that breached the walls of a small fortress. Maybe they were sub-contracted.
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    Question: Do we sit by now and treat Iraq like Syria...or do we move troops from Afghanistan to help out?
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    Nothing will be done, Obama's on vacation... again.
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    Sounds like the future drone business will be booming.
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    More votes for the Dem party
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    Gas probably went up 10 cents a gallon while I read that article.
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    Move troops from Afghanistan? There aren't enough troops in Afghanistan for Afghanistan. Most of troops are at home now, wondering who's going to get the axe come 1 October.

    To answer the question you were really asking, though, no, there will be no deployment of ground troops to Iraq, regardless of what happens there and regardless of how much they could help. That is a political reality, not a military one. I give you Vietnam in 1975 if you require a historical parallel.
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    Hurray democracy!
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    I predicted a few years back that this country would devolve into a 3 way civil war and I haven't changed my mind.
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    I suspect as much....but what a waste of American blood for absolutely nothing.
    If ever a people deserved a ruthless dictator, it's that part of the world.
    We should have left Goddam Saddam alone.
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    We also should never have entered World War I. Between June and November 1918, we lost over 50,000 soldiers and Marines (Imagine those kind of numbers in the current context if you would). Supposedly, this was to make the world "safe for democracy," but really all it accomplished was exchanging German and Ottoman colonies for French, British, and Japanese ones. Not to mention that this war only generated another, more deadly. If we had not intervened and minded our own business, it's more likely than not the war would have ended with both sides collapsing in revolution, not just the Central Powers (plus Russia), and the world probably would have been better off in the long run. The United States certainly would have been. OIF was foreign policy genius compared to the disaster that Wilson wrought on us in 1917.

    But at this point, crying over either decision does about the same amount of good.
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    Some knew this to be a certainty in 2003.
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    Point well taken wrt to WWI--however, the US had to protect its economic interests, with Britain and France, as they owed the US some $2 billion between them--and their ability to repay stood in jeopardy, if they lost to Germany.

    The problem with Germany was how we left it--a complete shambles--which was corrected with how we left it after WW II. This same principle was applied in Gulf War I, by leaving SH in control. (attempted, anyway).

    However since that didn't pan out, and in the wake of 9/11, with potential/apparent ties to AQ, and essentially a new world order.... a second approach, again attempting to apply the same principles (ref. Germany/wwII), was attempted, via OIF.

    It's easy to look back and say 'we never should have gotten involved in this or that war', as with VN, Korea, WWI, Kuwait/GWI, or OIF--but there is always compelling reasons to enter those wars--AT THE TIME.

    e.g. re. VN and Korea--communism was spreading like a virus, globally--we drew the line in the sand on those 2 battle fronts, and though they appeared to have been defeats for the US, the fact is, those 2 fronts were very instrumental in stemming the tide, and keeping coummunism at bay.

    North Korea and Viet Nam are often viewed as 'wars', due to their size, duration, and level of commitment--however, in the bigger picture, they were essentially two battles in the larger war against THE SPREAD OF communism.

    We may have lost those battles, but we won that war. Communism essentially stopped spreading, even ceded signifcant ground--albeit years after those battles were waged, but still (IMO), largely as a result of them being waged.

    IMHO.
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    I wouldn't say they deserve one, but they certainly haven't figured out how to live without one. It's a very unfortunate waste of a tremendous opportunity.

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