Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by eViLG, May 5, 2018.
Our guy balled out today for the Celtics...and I hate the Celtics.
But I love Al.
Since were talking basketball let's not forget:
2006 and 2007
Gotta root for Al -even on the Celtics
Go big Al!!!
The guy has never been flashy. He's just been a winner at every level. That go-ahead bucket was pure, hardworkin' Al Horford.
He's got a smoking hot wife #1 and #2 spent 3 years practicing against Noah's shot-blocking length to fuel the competitive fire and grow his offensive game against the best.
Plus he has his own theme song...
The 04s team is better than the Fab Five, UCLA 70's, UNC82 or any other college bball team.
AL Horford in the most underrated player in the NBA, and maybe the best defensive player.
And if Haywood and Irving weren't injured, the Cavs wont be in the finals, and the Rockets/Warriors would
have a serious 7 game matchup.
Amelia Vega Horford, Miss Universe 2003, from Dominican Republic. 6'0" tall.
Al is easily the GOAT for our program.....and it's not really even close.
I love his game, it is complete.
I haven't really embraced his teams. They seemed good and all but checked out early during the playoffs. They get past the 76ers then I will be in full Celts fan mode....for the remaining part of their season.
Reg season 12.9
Stars hurt playoffs 19.3 Ppg.
Such a team player.
They have a couple of very young kids, so maybe in about 15 yrs there will be another Horford at uf.
I'm not gonna drop the big red "X" on you, because it is obvious that Al has surpassed David Lee as the best of the Donovan era Gators; but if you never saw Neal Walk play, you never saw the greatest Gator. He averaged 20 rebounds and 26.5 points per game his junior year at UF and in his fourth NBA season, he averaged 20 points and 12.4 rebounds per game for the Phoenix Suns. He was having a great NBA career when either during , or immediately after his fifth season, he inexplicably went vegetarian, lost a bunch of weight and ceased being competitive under the basket.
Let’s be honest here. If we don’t call Al the GOAT gator by now, we’ll look pretty foolish. Neal Walk might’ve averaged those great numbers but so would Joakim Noah or Al Horford if they played in that era and on that team. Our next tallest player was 6’5, of course Walk was going to gather that many boards. Horford impacts the game in ways that don’t show up in a box score. He’s the ultimate winner and I’m going to start calling him the GOAT gator.
This is America. You can do what you want.
You can't put Horford and Noah on that team because they were born much too late. You get into alot of trouble if you start trying - and I say again - TRYING to place 21st century athletes into earlier eras.
What if Walk was an '04? What if he had been blessed with parents that ate the diet that Noah and Horford's parents ate, and had the physical training that Noah and Horford's parents had? What if he had eaten the diet that Noah and Horford ate? What if Walk had had the physical training from age 12 that these kids get today? If he'd had all that, he may have been 7' - 3" tall, weighed 300 pounds, and been more agile than he was.
I say Walk is the GOAT, and I don't feel at all foolish. Maybe old, but not foolish. If it was a case of "of course Walk was going to gather that many boards," why didn't someone else do it? Why has no one else ever done it?
Physical training at 12 stunts growth. And diets back in the 60s were actually healthier than today's food which are full of GMOs unless you're buying organic. Noah really hadn't gotten serious about S&C until his professional career so to say Walk was at a disadvantage because of these reasons just isn't true. There's no doubt Noah/Horford would've put up ridiculous numbers back in the 60s when your typical power forward was 6'4. I'm 6'5 and would've been good enough to play at Florida in the 60s considering that we weren't exactly Kentucky back then. I guarded Maarty Luenen once, and he completely dominated me the entire time. I mention this because Luenen got handled pretty easily against Noah/Horford in 2007. My point is that the game has evolved in player size. Wilt Chamberlain averaged 50 for a reason, the game wasn't ready for his size and strength.
If you were old enough to watch Walk and still feel like he's the GOAT, I can understand that. I just have a hard time believing he is due to just your stat argument. The offensive gameplan was also entirely different back then, so stats were typically inflated to favor big men like Walk.
Exactly. The game has evolved, but I believe that you can only compare players to players of their era. That is a tenet that I stick to religiously.
You make some good points, but your take on nutrition sounds like something Themistocles might type. Way off.