According to Giuliani: Mueller can not indict the President

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  1. OaktownGator

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    If he has the evidence to indict, impeachment is the process. He'll present his evidence to congress and it will be on them to move forward or not.

    Results of the midterms could be huge in determining what happens on that count.
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Agree. As a special counsel Mueller is bound by the opinion of the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel holding that a sitting president may not be indicted.
    A Sitting President’s Amenability to Indictment and Criminal Prosecution | OLC | Department of Justice

    Although Mueller will not seek to indict him, Trump may very well be named an unindicted co-conspirator as was Nixon.
    JURY NAMED NIXON A CO‐CONSPIRATOR BUT DIDN'T INDICT

    Interestingly, as Independent Counsel, Ken Starr seriously considered challenging the interpretation prohibiting the indictment of a sitting president although he never actually did so.
    Can the President Be Indicted? A Long-Hidden Legal Memo Says Yes
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    The liberals on this board believe the 50% of Americans who voted for DJT give two $hits about any of this. Trump's mostly doing the work he was elected to do. That's all anyone cares about.
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    50% of Americans definitely didn't vote for Trump, not even 50% of the people who actually voted in the election voted for Trump.
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  5. OklahomaGator

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    Heck 50% of the American people didn't vote for Grover Cleveland in 1884 either.:):)
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    Just wonder what the response would have been during Clinton's scandal if the pubs on here made the assumption any liberal cared the least bit about it. I doubt a single Clinton voter regretted their decision even after he cheated on his wife on the job with a subordinate and lied to their face about it on national TV.
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    He was probably excluding the illegal aliens to get to 50% of the voters. :cool:
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    The turnout in 1996 was about 6.2% lower than in 1992. So that probably isn't true. Gore basically ran away from Clinton in 2000 as well.
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  9. 92gator

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    Yep. At least most didn't.

    But we're supposed to...

    Sorry. Not feel'n it.

    In a vacuum, they might have a point--but DJT was elected as a juxtaposition to Shillary, in the wake of Barry.

    The level of corruption, slime, disgust, back door dealing, in your face screw you overtures, complete disdain for Americans, selling out of American interests, grotesque 10+ TRILLION DOLLAR spending orgy, one way politics, self-serving governance, foreign affairs disasters...with complete complicity, cover and cooperation from the MSM--AND THE GOP itself (former, and now only partial, home for conservatives)--left enough ppl--distributed in enough of the right places--disgusted and motivated enough, to cast a vote against all that shit, in and for the person of DJT (even against their former Party mates, who were thoroughly accredited in and by the GOP).

    Nothing's changed, except that they no longer have the power to do all of that shit above, so they've directed their ire at DJT.

    Do we care that the our new barrier to government cancer growth has some stank to it?

    Pretty much only in so far as the said barrier being breached--not because of we figured the barrier was ever lilly white virgin clean as the wind driven snow.

    C'est la vie.
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  10. 92gator

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    Something else happened bt '92 and '96.

    Mrs. Billybob sought to over take the healthcare system.

    Didn't sit well, with that generation of Americans, who still had some vestige of the notion of the virtue of freedom left, and some vestige of the forefathers' skepticism of government authority. Unlike today's typical American, who has been brainwashed in our schools to believe in the benignity and benevolence of government, to the point of viewing socialism, as a viable system that could possibly be reconciled with the underpinnings of freedom that anchor our constitutional republic.
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    Uh, sure.
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    What a silly stat to use support your disagreement to my post.
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    What happened was Ross Perot in 1992. Clinton was a slam dunk in 1996. Voter turnout? Talk about reaching.
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    No more silly than saying "not a single Clinton voter ..."
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    Not one on this board. That's a fact.:cool:
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    Ok, I mean some of us here weren't even old enough to vote for Clinton.
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    Agreed. Based on the number of registered voters from October 2016, about 31.5% of registered voters voted for Trump.
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    And that may have cost Gore the election.
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    A lot of people know that Trump supporters could care less about whether Trump or his supporters committed crimes conspiring with the Russian government, its agents, or their cut outs to help them in the election or if Trump and his supporters have used their positions to manipulate US policy for their gain.

    Because the lion share of his supporters share his values, and if he or they betrayed the country to get elected, well, he is their guy.

    The rest of us prefer leadership that is loyal to America and its Democratic institutions.

    BTW: accepting the Trump Tower meeting after receiving that Goldstone email was a disgrace.
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    How the President Can Be Prosecuted as a Criminal