4K panels

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  1. utopiaoffootball
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    Do not get a 4k TV. No content and it's first gen. Hold out for OLED or grab a plasma. Plasma is the closest thing to CRT when in comes to producing true black.
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    Funny, but I'm still looking for Utopia myself when it comes to TV's.
    Tell me...since I've never owned plasma, is the article below accurate?

    ".....ever wonder why your plasma tv set has no picture or why one night you were watching your tv set and then come in the morning to turn it on with no picture but sound? Well my friend i am here to tell you that this is a common problem with plasma tv sets, it is not the brand of the tv set or who build the tv set it is just bound to happen with time. The sad part about it is that some of the manufacturers know this but the name of the game is to make money, cant be mad with that i would like to make a little bit more money other than my fulltime job, but hey thats another subject.Moreover what can be causing this problem or why does this happen.Instead of boring you with a long article i am going to get right to the point and what is it that you can do yourself to fix it yourself.Ok this problem is coming from your Y sustain board which works with the Z sustain board to create the picture, it works just like the old tv sets with the vertical and horizontal deflection circuits.The reason that this happens is very simple after to much hours of usage by you the circuit board is like anything else (like us getting old) gets old and some of the components are not functioning like they are supposed to most of the time it is the fet transistors in that circuit that go bad and have to be replaced.Another problem that can cause this would be the tv set being programmed to a specific hour usage, this just means in simple english that if your tv set was programmed to be used for lets just say 40,000 hours before something goes bad or faulty, then that is just the way the people builded that tv set, less likely but it does happen.By this time you are probably asking yourself what can i do about this problem to fix it myself, well the first thing is to be very careful when doing it yourself, second is to aquire the service manual for your tv set from either fixya.com or eserviceinfo.com, third is to contact the manufacturer of the tv set and get the repair kit that they have for your tv set which consist of the Y sustain board the Zsustain board and the X sustain board or logic board.Once you have all this now you can do it yourself by following the instructrions on the service manual, remember to be careful and have the tv set unplugged from the wall before you service it, you should be able to change out the boards by yourself.Change the boards out and your tv set should be up and working normal again,have fun while you are doing it but be safe and save money on the repair cost.Hope this article helps whoever needs help and Thank You very much for reading."
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    If it's possible could you post the source? I'd like to read more about it. I don't dispute because I haven't heard of this problem. Of my friends who have plasmas, they haven't told me of this problem. They've only recommended plasmas to me because they give the best PQ. Yes plasmas have image retention issues but if you're take care of the equipment you won't have retention issues. Personally, I'd recommend plasmas to anyone. I have a Panasonic ST60 for close to a year and have had no issues. My friends who are videophiles have had the VT60 for 2 years with no issues.
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    There is a big difference in power consumption too, for folks that care about that. LEDs consume much less power than plasma.
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    The biggest problem with 4k is going to be content delivery.

    Streaming just 1080p requires a huge amount of compression and you're left with a picture that doesn't look anywhere near as good as a Blu Ray Disc. 4k is four times the resolution of 1080p, so to just get equivalent per-pixel quality you need 4x the bandwidth. I doubt Netflix or the other streaming services will be able to push that to a wide audience any time soon for significant amounts of content.

    Optical media isn't there yet, either. Even the latest triple layer BRDs can only hold around 100GBs. That will need to double if you want to see a 4k move at the same per pixel quality as current 1080p. You also have issues with transfer speed. You not only need 4x the space as a 1080p movie, it needs to be able to access to the data 4x as fast.

    Over the air/cable broadcasts are still only at 720p. 4k is over eight times that. If you buy a new 4k TV now, you will probably have replaced it twice before you finally see football games at that resolution.
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    I've had a Pany V10 plasma for about 6 years now. Works fine, great picture. But at this point I wouldn't get another plasma. The LED picture is just as good now and are less expensive, less energy, more dependable.

    My plasma puts out some serious heat. It's great in the winter... its like have a space heater mounted on the wall. But the thing kills me in the summer. I'm sure its raising the temp by 2-3 degrees in the room its in, which happens to be in the same room as the thermostat, so that's another added cost I'd like to get rid of.
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    I'm in the market too, but I am likely not going with the 4k.
    I really don't care about football so much, I have other interests demanding high resolution and quality sound.
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    My ST60 plasma is rated at $60 per year I believe. Unless you have an FSU degree I don't think it is going to break you. Comparably, it would be like having to pay for three pounds of King Crab legs.
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    Touche. :D

    I think Plasmas typically run double the power consumption of LEDs. Not an issue to most individuals outside of the paper hat and trick flower lapel communities, but if everyone opts for one over the other it makes a big difference in total power consumption.
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    I always thought HD would kill the porn industry. ;)
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    Nope...I can clearly see what's going on now. :cool:
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    I just bought a projector for football season. While it's nice to have, I wouldn't recommend it over a good tv.
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    Sure, but they do literally add heat to the room, too.

    At this point their advantages are starting to slip away with LED and oLEDs. I wouldn't buy one in 2014. 4 years ago? Probably.
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    I'm sad plasma is going away. I suspect that the reason is that the others are simply more profitable. Plasma not only had the advantage of black levels (still does imo), and the native ability to display motion (i.e. it doesn't need 240hz subfields to display motion and does it perfectly always), but more importantly to me was picture quality.

    I have many friends with led's (in reality lcd's backlit with leds) and the warmth of the plamsa picture is just isn't there. I will concede though that the good led's now are almost as good as the plasmas. However I'm just not crazy about the picture on the leds. The leds still suffer though from off angle viewing issues, motion issues, etc.

    So, in my opinion, the best display is being taken off the market.

    4k is one thing that would move me, though. The higher definition would push me there. And, hey, I put up with dlps for years lol.

    Oled is ridiculously expensive . . . for now.
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    Porn?
    You can get HD Porn?
    I didn't know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I bought stock in the patent holder of OLED just after they got the patent, so for sure wait on OLED....
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    I hear you, I just think for most people the advantages are negligible enough that the LED/LCD is more appealing, hence the market reaction.
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    I wholeheartedly agree with you. I LOVE my Samsung plasma and don't really see why anyone would buy an lcd given the choice. what's the point of a tv that looks like crap unless you're viewing it in exactly the right spot?

    I've had it 4 years now and would still put the picture quality up against just about any tv out there

    Shame they're going away

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