4 times in a season?

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  1. tilly

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    I posted in another thread the number of teams (and seasons) that have played 4 times. It is MANY just since 1975. There are also MANY 4 game sweeps. Its more common than we may think. Here is the list again:
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    Teams that have played four or more times during the same season since 1975:

    Cincinnati vs. Memphis
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1992 4 4-0 1-0 1-0 2-0


    Duke vs. Maryland
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    2001 4 3-1 0-1 1-0 2-0

    Duke vs. North Carolina
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1980 4 2-2 0-1 0-1 2-0


    Duke vs. NC State
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 4-0 1-0 1-0 2-0


    Duke vs. Wake Forest
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1978 4 3-1 1-0 0-1 2-0

    Georgetown vs. St. John's
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1985 4 3-1 0-1 1-0 2-0

    Georgetown vs. Providence
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1987 4 2-2 1-0 0-1 1-1


    Kansas vs. Iowa St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 3-1 2-0 0-1 1-0


    Kansas vs. Kansas St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1977 4 1-3 0-1 0-1 1-1
    1978 4 3-1 1-0 1-0 1-1
    1988 4 2-2 0-1 1-0 1-1


    Kansas vs. Oklahoma
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 2-2 1-0 0-1 1-1


    Kansas vs. Oklahoma St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 4-0


    Kansas St. vs. Oklahoma
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 0-4 0-1 0-1 0-2


    Kansas vs. Oklahoma St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 4-0


    Kentucky vs. Alabama.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1986 4 4-0 2-0 1-0 1-0


    Kentucky vs. LSU
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1986 4 3-1 2-0 1-0 0-1


    Nebraska vs. Oklahoma St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1978 4 4-0 2-0 1-0 1-0

    North Carolina vs. North Carolina State
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1975 4 2-2 1-0 0-1 1-1
    1977 4 3-1 1-0 0-1 2-0

    North Carolina vs. Wake Forest
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1981 4 2-2 0-1 1-0 1-1

    North Carolina State vs. Virginia
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1983 4 2-2 0-1 0-1 2-0

    Oklahoma St. vs. Missouri
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 3-1 1-0 1-1 1-0


    Oregon vs. Oregon St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1976 4 3-1 1-0 2-0 0-1


    Oklahoma St. vs. Missouri
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1979 4 3-1 1-0 1-1 1-0


    Oregon vs. Oregon St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    1976 4 3-1 1-0 2-0 0-1

    Oregon St. Stanford
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    2009 4 3-1 1-0 2-0 0-1


    Wisconsin vs. Michigan St.
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    2000 4 0-4 0-1 0-1 0-2


    Wisconsin vs. Purdue
    No. Record Home Road Neutral
    Year Games W-L W-L W-L W-L
    2000 4 3-1 1-0 0-1 2-0
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    Cool! Thanks for taking the time to share that info. If this info is all inclusive, then would this mean if UF made it to the final championship against UK, and then beat UK, that UF would be the first team to go 4-0 in a season against UK? Now that would be awesome and would be a 1st! :)
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    That list is just from 1975 until today. There are way more.
    You are correct. UK has never gone 0-4 in a season.
    Here is the complete list from nearly a century of hoops:
    http://rpiratings.com/fourinone.php
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    It is incorrect to think that just because a coin has come up heads many times in a row, that a tail is somehow "due". The odds on the next flip are still 50/50.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

    That said, unlike coin flips, a series of games between two teams is not a series truly independent events. The coin does not remember the result of the previous event or events, but human players and coaches do. The 0-3 team might have learned enough in their first three games to finally win one, but psychology is important, too...if the 0-3 team is trailing the 3-0 team again, doubt may start to creep in.
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    Cool...that's another "never been done before" that we might have a chance to do. :D
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    I think our coach and players have a much better grasp of the mental aspect then our fans

    We fans are worried about the sting of losing to a team/fans base we strongly dislike, while this whole year, Billy has been preaching being in the moment, no past no future, just chasing greatness now.

    This team is chasing their own greatness, confidence in themselves, not based on comparison in whatever team they are facing.

    There were plenty of teams that we played this year that could beat us on any given date, but they weren't able to. Not because we are the most talented, but because we have enough talent, chemistry, experience, and great coaching, to do what needs to be done.

    For those thinking UK almost beat us last time around, yes they were very very close to getting up a shot to beat us, but let's remember, we were up 15 on them also, and we kind of let things get away from us.

    Do yourself a favor and just remind yourself that you have no control here and you will support this team regardless.
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    Another note, in watching these UK games, nobody is playing defense against them like UF has.

    You have to take 1-2 of their big 4 out of the game.

    Double Randle, and play very good 3 pt defense on Young and the Harrisons.
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    Yes the best competitors compete against themselves. We are the only ones who can beat us.
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    an interesting look at Kentucky shows they have just barely been winning their games by 7, 2, 5 and 3 games in order. The game wasn't decided until the end.
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    UConn would be a much easier matchup for UK than Florida. UK is favored against Wisconsin, I'd have to assume they'd be favored by more against UConn. I'd also have to assume they wouldn't be favored at all against Florida. I don't see UConn as really having a chance at the title. Playing Florida first hurts, but I don't see them beating Kentucky or Wisconsin either.
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    Whats truly hilarious is the fact that a coach who just rolls the ball out there, can't develop talent, recruits indiscriminately and who's system is so simple any coach can prepare their team to go against it - had had more success since arriving at UK than any other coach in the country...
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    His point is true. The OP is under the impression that because we have won three times, we are more likely to lose the next time. Classic gambler's fallacy.

    Now if the OP had said "since we have played Kentucky 3 times already, due to their familiarity with Donovan's complex system, we are more likely to lose", then your post would be on point.
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    Yes, like us not showing up.

    Otherwise, WE WIN!

    GO GATORS!!!!

    :D
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    I'm in Cincinnati today. Overheard some people near me talking and one said her father is a big UK fan (a lot of them here with Kentucky just across the river) but is so tired of hearing the UK players talk. "They are so full of themselves." If that is true it could be their downfall.
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    Like many have pointed out in this thread, the 50/50 part of the coin flip is irrelevant to the point. The idea is that what makes beating a team four times in a row difficult is not that the last game is tougher. It is the cumulative probability of each outcome going in your favor. Since we are already three games into this hypothetical four game series, the cumulative probability of a sweep is now the same as that of a us winning the next game.
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    I haven't gotten that at ALL from this year's team. Even leading into the season you've gotta remember that they responded (well IMO) to other's questions about 40-0. The have appeared to be nothing but a completely respectful bunch from what I've seen and they have a reputation for being this way with those who do work related to the team. This group has even been praised by opposing players this year.

    This isn't always the case with highly touted freshmen, like in 2010. I'll go ahead and say those kind of comments would have been accurate in some of those cases.
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    The pressure might be on us, not Kentucky. Kentucky wasn't even supposed to make it past Kansas St, let alone get to the FF. Us, OTOH, were picked to win it all and nothing short of the championship will be considered a winning season. I wonder what the team feels was the goal - getting to the Final 4 or winning it all? It would seem the psychological hurdle was the Final 4 or why would Patric let it all out after the win? Did the pressure valve just go off and now they can enjoy the remaining games?
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    Nah. After losing in three straight Elite 8s, you have to expect going to the Final Four would release a lot of emotion.

    Now they have a week to regroup and focus... as Billy will tell them, it's a two-game season.

    I have no worries they will ease off because they reached their 'goal'. They know all they have 'reached' is the 2nd to the last one on their bulletin board... the first is still there.

    And the Gators will be ready.
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    You mean overhearing a total stranger quoting her dad who is just a fan is not a reputable source? :)
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