36,000 people from NC voted there and in other states in 2012

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    It's about protecting the rights of people who have voted a certain way for decades from being taken away to solve a problem no one can verify actually exists. Should we also pass a law barring Klingons from voting?

    Also, if pubs were serious about this, they would pass something equitable and fair and have it implemented in non-federal election years. But they never try to. Why is that?

    It's because what they really want is:

    A. to change the rules right before a prez election so those most likely to be disenfranchised will be.
    B. failing that, they want to be able to always paint any election result they don't like as fraudulent.
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    Oh yes it does. Voter fraud does exist.
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    Wow, this board is clueless as to voter fraud and what it constitutes. Who is saying they vote in multiple states? Impostors surely have the opportunity to do so with this large weakness in the system, one of many I might add. Again, I know without doubt that I could vote multiple times in a Jersey primary, and probably in most general elections, with virtually no fear of getting caught. The system is that bad. But most probably wouldn't realize this unless they have been involved in campaigns to the extent that I have been involved.

    CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!
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    I guess you did not get my sarcasm?
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    You can tell it's a big problem from all the convictions it leads to.

    Oh, wait...
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    Nobody wants voter fraud. But the Republican obsession with it is quite remarkable given how little of it they actually find. Almost like looking for communists in your closet.
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    Yeah. I can be a little slow to catch on sometimes.
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    Fred, why are democrats so opposed to rules making it nearly impossible to cheat? Why are democrats opposed to rules that punish counties, towns and cities by forcing them to keep polling locations open for several weeks? Why are democrats opposed to voters producing valid IDs? If there is no fraud, no cheating, why be opposed?

    Here in Jacksonville, democrats have well organized "bus the voters to the polls days" where for a "free lunch" you can get the voters to vote for whoever you want. They pick them up after their church services, after the minister has given instructions on who to vote for and why. I talked to a guy that catered one of those events. 5,000 + BBQ dinners. He said most people there had no clue what the issues were. They were handed out flyers on who to vote for and what amendment to vote yes and no on. Now, I don't know the legalities of the above, nor where the money comes from for the free lunches and dinners. If it is legal, I would think we want each person to be an eligible voter and only vote once. With expanded voting opportunities, I wouldn't bet against the organizers having free lunches available every day the polls are open. Hell, eat for free for two weeks....here's the daily menu.
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    A libertarian would demand showing a law is a necessity before passing one that takes citizens' rights away.

    Again, if the pubs were serious about this, do it now and give the potential disenfranchisees 3 years to adapt. So why don't they?
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    fred, they have been. The movement to require IDs has been ongoing for quite some time. I am asked for one in Florida, aren't you?
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    Funny how this movement of yours only changes rules 6 months before a presidential every time.
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    Funny how this movement of yours only changes rules 6 months before a presidential every time.
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    I guess most states in the country fit your definition of obstruction. Damn, the entire country is racist. Even most blue states...because most require picture IDs. If we truly wanted to discriminate, we'd ask voters simple civic's questions like, who are your state's senators, tell me the 3 branches of government. Hell, we'd knock out 80% of the democratic base.
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    It is more that 6 months from a presidential election now, so why the outrage about it.
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    About what?
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    vs. Democrats who like to change rules after elections and claim results they don't like as fraudulent. (Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2008)
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    Some interesting facts about the cross checking behind this. Well, I haven't doubled checked the assertions here so I can't claim they're facts. But ...

    http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/04/whos-driving-north-carolinas-latest-voter-fraud-hy.html
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    I did check the above claims about Colorado, and they were completely true.

    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/bou...da-stan-garnett-clears-illegal-voters-gessler

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