"3 NSA veterans speak out on whistle-blower: We told you so"

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    Why did America ignore these three men, but not Snowden?

    usatoday.com

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    yea, we talked about this last week. It bears thinking about again.
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    I can really only think its just a matter of timing.
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    Patriot Act. If you think what you do on the internet or who you call is not being recorded you deserve to go back to the stone ages.
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    Seriously, local and state police have been using the internet for years in obtaining information on people. This is nothing new and has nothing to do with the Patriot Act.
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    Is J Kirk....Captain James Kirk formerly of the SS Enterprise?
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    It's the Corbomite Maneuver. He was trying to make the government think the people would rise up. They won't.
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    As much as I abhor the PA, this is undoubtedly true.

    In the early 90's an executive trainer I know did a gig at the Pentagon and they candidly told her they could (and presumably did) track your cell phone even when it's not on. At that time it seemed surprising and invasive. But they treated it as old hat. Since it was no biggie to them two decades ago you have to assume you've been being monitored since who knows when. And I'm not advocating for it, just saying that all of this sudden shock is a little smirk-worthy. Massive servers are the new black (helicopters.)
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    We live in an age where we need much more privacy protection - not less.
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    Most people don't seem that concerned with it Oak, there are so many that freely participate in social networking. Internet = less privacy, I spend a far amount of my time hunting people down for a living.
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    The internet is a public network/resource and I think many people are starting to understand that now. Privacy on the internet is similar to privacy in the public outdoors. There are limits to privacy online and things you can do to increase privacy, but you have to either be aware.
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    We could have avoided all of this and The Patriot Act if we profiled. We are one of the few countries that don't profile, even liberal European countries profile.
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    I hear you. And if they volunteer to make their stuff public and share with everyone, that's one thing.

    But private email, chats, phone conversations etc, should be exactly that - private.
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    So the greatest means of communication and dissemination of information known to man, by several orders of magnitude, was researched, funded, implemented, subsidized, and otherwise given away for nothing by a centralized government and some are shocked to learn that the same centralized government uses it for its own gain?

    You may not be shocked, but you've got to dig that run-on sentence.
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    It's the national security state, folks. That's what we live in. Get over it! Or maybe you think we can do something about it? Ha ha ha ha ha. According to polls, about half of Americans think this Big Brother crap is okay. IOW they don't think the Constitution is worth the paper it's written on, and certainly not worth being distracted from American Idol and its various offspring (America Has Talent, America Has No Brains, and whatever else). So get over it!
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    Wow, I wonder how many teens that have been "sexting" are thinking..."oh chit."
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    It's the Idiocracy. That's the only plausible explanation.
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    I always like to throw 'em a bone every now and then:

    - add an inappropriate comment on the memo line of a check (like "shipment of illegal drugs" or "terrorist activity" or "unlawful gambling")
    - add a comment at the bottom or in the middle of my emails indicating that I'm spying on the people spying on my emails (like "I know you are reading this, and that's ok, I'm part of a watchdog group that keeps tabs on people like you" or maybe just throw in keywords at the bottom like "project mayhem" or "we guard you while you sleep")
    - take pictures of security cameras or pull out a notepad, look at the camera and then pretend like you're writing something down, this works will with security guards and posted officers as well
    - my wife gets mad at me when I ask hypothetical questions to TSA about how they would handle a situation if they suspected (insert random illegal activity)

    Go GATORS!
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    Now, the governments push for high speed internet availability for everyone makes perfect sense.
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    I understand but they never have been private. Visit certain websites or purchase items online and your info is automatically being shared. Not defending it but just being realistic.

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