2015 WR Tristan Payton 6-1 180 of First Coast HS, Jacksonville FL.

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    Not much on him, but I know the coaches like him. Zero stars usually means he hasn't been evaluated by the recruiting services yet.
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    I say keep that pipeline to Jacksonville open and flowing!
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    Strong, fluid player with good strength and great hands. Considering he's likely 16 in this tape, he'll likely grow into his frame even more. I like him.
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    not bad route running, but does seem slow. He also looks tough, so might be a good blocking receiver.
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    Yeah I wouldn't say "slow" but definitely not elite top end speed
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    “I just committed to Coach (Will) Muschamp,” Payton said. “He was very excited when I told him the news this afternoon. He was very happy and said that he was proud that I was a Florida Gator and that I made the right decision for myself and for my family and that he looks forward to coaching me.”

    Payton visited Florida this past Saturday for junior and that’s where he learned he had a Gators offer after meeting with Will Muschamp and offensive coordinator Kurt Roper."

    http://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/payton-commits-makes-muschamp-proud/
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    Roper doing his thing.
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    Glade to see coaches going after the lids they see fitting into the program instead of a recruiting number beside there name. This proves how great a staff this is a florida to go after a talent such as his because they believe in him as a person and not a number. Unlike the urban days where he went after the 5 star number only.
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    Doesn't have that natural elite speed but great hands and strength for a young player!
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    Yes, I too prefer the halcyon days we're currently experiencing to the unremitting horror that was the Urban Meyer era.
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    Lol. Easy now.. you know what he meant. Regardless if they're 5* or not they might not be the best fit for what a team wants to do.

    High star rankings are great for winning the recruiting crown. But you need guys to buy in to what the team is doing and the team needs guys who com plume t what they want to run.

    I would much prefer a 3 or 4 star who can actually contribute versus a talented 5 * who never really buys in or was not really ever a good fit for the scheme the team runs. He just becomes a by product at that point.

    It's like that saying:

    "If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it really make a noise?"

    If a 5* talent never fits in and shows his skills, is he really a 5* talent? (See debose)

    Or like I tell my employees, how good of a worker can you be if you ain't here working.
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    Lots of good Jax players this year. Welcome aboard Tristan!
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    Not to mention, Travis Rudolph comes to mind with players like this. Highly underrated early in the evaluation period (Rudolph was a 3 * when we started recruiting him) then through camps prove their worth and skyrocket up the rankings. ( Rudolph finished as a 5* #1 wr, # 11 overall.)
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    Well, the statistics are pretty clear. All else equal, you're better off with a five star prospect than one who is lower rated. There's a better chance they'll become good players, and a better chance good players will be great.

    That's not to say coaches should sub-contract their evaluations to the recruiting services (which there's no evidence Meyer ever did) or that they should ignore lower rated prospects (which there's no evidence Meyer ever did). There are only so many four and five star prospects out there, so you need to fill out your class with lower rated kids. And I've no particular reason to doubt Payton's ability. I'm happy he's on board. And this early in the process, lots of kids are still being evaluated by the services, so the rankings aren't as meaningful.

    But considering that we've been at a talent disadvantage over the last few years, and considering our utter lack of speed and firepower on the offensive side of the ball, "lacks speed, but a good route runner" is not really my ideal description of the receivers I was hoping we'd bring in. And, to be blunt, we are looooong past any sort of "trust the coaches" argument.
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    He is fluid and strong, looks like he could add alot of speed with work. Reminds me of Randolph quit a bit. Not every kid is a 4 or 5 star at the beginning. Farrior is plenty fast, and this kid will get faster. Now I would like to see us add a slot next and then maybe a few more receivers. Nothing wrong with getting 5 this year
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    It looks like we are hitting on all cylinders in Jax. Interesting that 2 of the 4 early recruits are receivers. Looks like Roper is already having an influence.
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