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Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by Jaggator, Jan 24, 2014.
Just looks like they're predicting the future to me....smart girls
And just to add to this, while I was checking out Rudolph's twitter one of his friends tweets reminded me of something: just a few short months ago when we started recruiting Rudolph he was a 3 star. A few good camps and a good senior year, add a little water and POOF! instant 5 star.
But, but, but the scouts know more then us and they ranked him a 3 star when we started recruiting him. Good thing our coaches don't go off of star rankings.
Missourigator, Knowing this are you not glad we started recruiting Rudolph the 3*? It may pay dividends of we flip Rudolph the 5 *.
This is epic..... Truly epic. Well done, sir. This may surpass "I'm going to the university of Florida state" LOL
I'm saving that pic!
He TR never visited UF for camps games etc or did he?
If true give Joker the credit! Why!
Not certain of your question but Rudolph did visit for camps, Friday night lights for certain.
"@Money_Lane: night to remember with the homie jaboowins5 ... Tally was turnt to the max lastnight !!!www.instagram.com/p/j4UIkHIvqU/"
Looks like lane has already replaced Casher as jameis' reach around guy.
So Lane might go to FSU after all?! Wow, colour me shocked.
He couldn't resist all the grab assing going on with his new big homie.
Looks like we're getting the receiver that actually lit up the same league Lane played in, and won the State Championship.
Glad we're not seeing pics of the after party.
Shhhhh! The star checkers will hear you speak that blasphemy.
I'm not sure your point. That evaluations can't change over time and recruiting services should be held to their initial ranking? Are you saying that Rudolph was a 5 star player his junior year and everyone missed?
I'm saying maybe he was better than a 3 * initially but lack of exposure was one thing working against him. As he continued to participate in camps and other competition events he started getting more exposure which led to more offers and attention from coaches/schools which most certainly influences scouts evaluation to whatever degree.
He of course got better but so did the 200 other players that was ahead of him. He went from barely being around the top 250 to the #11 overall player and top WR. From three stars to 5 while everyone else meddled around the same ranking pretty much?
I think he was always better than a 3* and scouts (for websites) were able to start appreciating the other parts of his game that isn't flashy.
That whole thing was a example for worton, who I believe is better than his 3 * ranking suggest, not a 5* but certainly a legit 4. Dude produces in big games, and tape don't lie.
A poster was saying he might be OK but never good because he is a 3* and that people smarter than us who rank the guys for the websites obviously can't have underrated this guy.
What's the Success Rate for 5-Star Recruits Reaching the NFL?
Interesting for sure. Overall, it tells you a lot about how likely the five stars really are to make it playing on Sundays.
Some real damning stuff on our coaching at Florida, though; the following discusses how many 5 star players make and stick in the NFL (retention rate):
Let's start with the SEC, which is one spot away from the gutter in terms of power-conference retention rate. How could that be possible?
Part of it might have to do with sample size. Its retention rate of 40 percent is on line with the whole-sample retention rate we calculated earlier; and the bigger the sample, the more likely your population to regress toward the mean.
The other part is simple: SEC powers don't coach talent the way they purport. Some of the conference's blue-blood programs, specifically Florida and Tennessee, did a very bad job developing 5-stars during this span:
No school produces busts like Florida, which had 11 5-star players drafted but only six that were able to stick around in the league. And it's not like those players were seventh-round picks, either.
In the first section of this piece, we looked at retention rate by round selected. Of the 56 5-star players taken in the first two rounds of the draft, only four haven't lasted 75 percent of their professional seasons.
Three of those four players went to Florida.
Derrick Harvey, Jarvis Moss and Chad Jackson have been abject disasters in the NFL, making up three-fourths of the outliers in that subset. If and when Tim Tebow doesn't make an active roster next season, he too will fail to qualify for retention, and this number will drop even lower.
Of note, is that this really reflects on Zook and Meyer (2002 thru 2008 classes). It remains to be seen how Champ will do.
I think Harvey and Moss both needed another year of development instead of coming out early. Jackson was just over rated IMO. TT was never coached to be a QB who could do the things the NFL requires (I think Miller will have the same issues). Add in the circus around him that NFL teams don't want to deal with, and they're not going to spend time developing him.
Harvey was a beast and MVP of the MNC game. He would have been an idiot to stay. Some players are better suited for college. Also, I think getting many guys drafted in the first round who had no business being there is a posititve for the coaching staff. Its up to NFL coaches to get them to the next level and ready for Sunday.
Truthfully to those 3 guys, moss, harvey, jackson suffered the jamarcus Russell effect, had 1 good season and rode the hype and momentum into the draft. Moss had ideal size the nfl looks for, But other than the blocked kicks I can't think of a whole lot he did, harvey came on strong one season had good closing speed for a edge rusher and the nfl guys covet that, and Jackson had 1 season with 88 catches and bolted.
He had a huge game in the BCS CG, but prior to that was a mixed bag. As far as getting a paycheck, it wasn't a bad decision, but as far as being ready to actually play in the NFL, he should have waited. IMO.
I don't necessarily agree with this. I agree some players are just college players which is why education needs to be a huge focus as well. That being said, the coaches job is not only to coach them up to championship caliber to win in college, but also to prepare them for the next level. Of course the NFL coaches get paid to do a job but the foundation should be laid and taught in college. The fact that we had so many drafted that had no business being drafted seems to be the result of the system.