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2/3 of younger workers wouldn’t live in a state with abortion bans

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, May 7, 2024.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    my daughter is being recruited by hospitals and therapy groups as a soon to be physical therapist but she refuses to return to Florida under MAGA rule
     
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  2. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Typically, reliability of a survey would be established through sample size, distribution, and multiple instances of gathering data (replicability of results). I don't think we know enough about these variables, given the info provided, aside from sample size (1k). Validity is another matter and would be vetted through survey construction in relation to previous research (one manner of establishing validity).
     
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  3. WESGATORS

    WESGATORS Moderator VIP Member

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    It's possible I'm asking the wrong question. If I say something is important to me, how do you know that to be true?

    These types of questions involve more than opinions, its a collection of how people claim they will act. But they could be disingenuous, or they could be truly believe what they are expressing at the time they are expressing and still behave differently when the opportunity arises (see athletic administrators giving a vote of confidence in a struggling coach; or a coach claiming he's not leaving for a better opportunity).

    Go GATORS!
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  4. WarDamnGator

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  5. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    You are asking a question of validity (i.e. does the survey truly measure that which it purports to). A survey can be reliable (i.e. replicate the results, even if not accurate) w/o being valid, but not vice versa. It must be reliable in order to be valid.
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    I don’t know for sure but my bet is this is a response to gator_lawyer as I can’t see what they post. But fits and you are correct if I am reading this correctly.
     
  7. g8trdoc

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    Good don’t want them in Florida we have enough libs
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    No state has ever proposed a law that does not protect the mothers life if it is jeopardy. Not a single one.
     
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  9. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    LOL!

    I don’t think Texas and Florida are having trouble finding employees at all.

    Thanks for the laugh!
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Not quite the issue, the problem isn't cases in which death would be a near certainty if an abortion were not performed but cases in which the mother is experiencing a very serious medical condition short of death. In at least one case (Texas) a State Supreme Court held that a situation of the nature would be sufficient for an abortion under state law. The example:
    Texas Supreme Court blocks order allowing abortion; woman who sought it leaves state
    Because state laws restricting or prohibiting abortion are so vague doctors who may risk their licenses to practice medicine or even their freedom are reluctant to perform abortions until a patient is literally at death's door,
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    Disagree. Doctors know if the mothers life is in jeopardy. Doctors are people and may be okay with killing a child for convenience. But reality is they need to protect the most innocent now in many states. I find that good. Others think they should be able to legally kill a child for convenience.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    Yes, his name is Andrew*

    * not his real name.
     
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  13. gaterzfan

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    It was just a general comment on the topic. I don’t see gatorlawyers comments as he/she/it has been flushed.
     
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  14. AndyGator

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    Whoa, watch it there buddy! :mad:
     
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  15. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    I was wrong. Thanks for clarifying. On my feed the post before yours does not show. Why I made that assumption.
     
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  16. tilly

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    Moving over politics is silly.
    In my lifetime I have lived predominantly in two states. Florida and North Carolina.

    They are (politically) split exactly 50/50 in my lifetime.

    If you move every time the politics switch, then you better be pretty well off and have multiple homes in several states.

    Then what if your local government is different that the state?

    It's silly.
     
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  17. tampagtr

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    Very privileged sentiment from a perspective that cannot suffer oppression
     
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  18. GatorJMDZ

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    I'm guessing not even close.
     
  19. l_boy

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    It is instructive to look what European countries do. Almost all have pretty open access during the first trimester. After that it varies, but again almost all have fairly liberal exceptions beyond the cutoff - in terms of the life or health of the mother. Plus I doubt they place the legal and liability burdens on health care providers.

    While I prefer the Roe limits, at viability, a 20 or even 15 week cutoff could be palatable if they were much more liberal on the exceptions.

    https://reproductiverights.org/wp-c...uropean-abortion-law-a-comparative-review.pdf
     
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  20. gatordavisl

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    And yet politics created this situation. Your personal experiences living in FL/NC are irrelevant.
     
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