0bama praises Ho Chi Minh

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    As stated earlier: "Official records from the time suggest that 172,008 "landlords" were executed during the "land reform", of whom 123,266 (71.66%) were later found to be wrongly classified."
    Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=266941#ixzz2aBSkMUqP

    Actually, it is Ho Chi Minh that was the inspiration for Obamacare - a 72% error rate, not bad for government work. :no:
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    Barry just wanted everybody to know that we are all one big happy family. We have oh so much in common. One big friggin tent.
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    So which makes you happier, (i) that Ho claims he was inspired by the founding fathers (regardless of the fact that he was a ruthless butcher of his own people), or (ii) that 0bama felt it important to remind the world that Ho claims he was inspired by the founding fathers (regardless of the fact that he was a ruthless butcher of his own people)? If it's option
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    I think it is important to acknowledge the nationalist, anti-imperial character of Ho's DRV independence movement, as well as its communist character.

    The Proclamation of Independence of Vietnam, as announced by Ho Chi Minh on September 2, 1945:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_Independence_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Vietnam

    In any case, diplomacy requires the finding of common ground, or even manufacturing it when needed.
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    Exactly
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    Barry never met a despot he didn't like.
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    I'd suggest you read Vietnam's Declaration of Independence and see if you see any references to our own.You and I may not agree with many things Ho did, but it's kind of ridiculous to deny facts just because you don't want to believe them:

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    He asked us for help in building a nation first. We chose to support France's right to have a SE Asian colony instead. Much bad could have been avoided had we stood for our principals instead of France's honor.
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    Forget Uncle Ho for a minute - how many Vietnamese did WE have to kill for them to gain their independence?

    We went to war with Vietnam over NOTHING in the Tonkin Gulf.
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    :grin:
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    We should have listened to Ike when he told Kennedy not to get involved.
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    I lost a lot of friends in Nam just so this ........ could make those kinds of statements- while prezBO's comments disgust and even disappoint me he is free to make them
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    why did his comments disgust you? other than the fact that Obama said it, of course.
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    Umm..many loons and mass murders have claimed they were inspired by things that were never meant to inspire mass murders. Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber come to mind quickly. Is Obama going to bring them up next and imply that a misunderstanding led to all their crimes? More importantly, if he did, would the Obamatrons continue to defend him? History on this board shows the answer to be yes. So sad that ethics and morality are so easily consumed by blind loyalty to "your guy". He made a mistake. One of many he has made and he will make many more. Admitting it won't make you less of a person and might even be liberating since it is pretty clear he will continue to make them. Maybe if folks that blindly back him (like the press) held him to account on some of these he might learn from them and make less of them.
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    I never get used to the liberty hating people on this board
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    Obama said nothing about justifying any crimes. What he said was this:

    And he was correct. It's a historical fact, whether you want admit it or not.
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    Ok..I get it. You want to deflect from from the absolute inappropriateness of his saying something positive about a mass murderer and enemy of the United States by saying what he said was true. True or not, as our President, he was wrong to bring him up this context. Can we agree on that?
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    Yes, plus the fact that whoever was in the White House at the time, ignored the fact that the Vietnamese have hated the Chinese for centuries and would never be cooperate with them.
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    This is much ado about nothing.
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    Was Ho also inspired by say, Mao, Hitler or Stalin. Actions speak MUCH LOUDER than any words. In fact I seem to recall Barry saying something about "just words".

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