0bama praises Ho Chi Minh

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    Barry said Ho was inspired by our Founding Fathers.

    Either 0bama is ignorant and lazy for failing to research just who Ho was or, worse, Barry really believes this absurd horse crap. Does he really know how many Viet Namese this butcher murdered?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...namese-dictator-inspired-by-founding-fathers/
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    you're saying Ho Chi Minh wasn't inspired by Jefferson?
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    Hey, and all it took was the corpses of several hundred thousands of communism-opposed South Vietnamese! What's that to the advance of Marxism?

    Prepare to recycle all the same indignant prattle we got from the administration when Anita Dunn was called on her admiration of Mao.
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    Certainly not in any intellectually credible way. Tracing his inspiration to Marxist perversions of Enlightenment philosophy doesn't rationally connect the warped spew of the eventual mass murdering communist dictators to the source material. Jefferson is as much a genuine root cause for Ho Chi Minh as the dog was for Son of Sam.
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    A Ho was a real humanitarian. Has anyone ever asked Obama how many people in the colonies were put to death because they did not agree with the Declaration of Independence or the ratification of the US Constitution?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh
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    I think in this case, the truth is a defense.
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    Two points --

    1) again, it is fruitloop position, to feel inspired to totalitarian mass murder by the founding of the US. Repeating it as though it wasn't Ho Chi Minh being a nutsack only serves to legitimize the intellectual fraud that there is a reasonable line between Enlightment/individualism/classical liberalism and Marxist authoritarian dictatorships that throw up prison camps the way we throw up Starbucks.

    2) why illustrate it all? The Vietnamese guy didn't even talk about Ho Chi Minh, so it isn't like etiquette required he be praised at all. Do people go out of their way to talk about Hitler's warped inspirations with Angela Merkel? Or Stalin's with Putin?
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    Finding another kook to validate Ho Chi Minh's kookiness is not really all that compelling to me, but your mileage may vary.
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    Another one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#First_sojourn_in_France

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    I think you are vastly simplifying the issues.
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    What Obama actually said:

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    Sometimes they are vastly simple -- to wit, having a kind word to say about any of history's communist dictators with a 10^6+ body count is raises a presumption that one is a kook. A very narrowly rebuttable presumption, perhaps, sometimes there are things one can say with irony or admiration in a very specific context (like Stalin's "not one step backward" order being pretty bamf), but a pretty strong presumption that one is a whacko if they see a communist revolutionary or communist dictator and say "hmm, I haven't said anything good about this guy in a while" and go with it.
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    actually---it was Obama praising Ho Chi Minh for Ho Chi Minh's praising our founding fathers.

    thing is, two bit(or more) dictators have been claiming to be inspired, or followers, etc of American founding fathers for decades---especially the two bit dictators in Central and South America---whether they were supported by GOP POTUS's or Dem POTUS's or both

    Also might care to remember that Liberia was established with the hopes of having a govt and nation such as ours

    Also remember that both U.S. and Haiti became nations at about the same time. and both had superb first president and similar form of govt. Sadly for Haiti the subsequent presidents of that country decided to become dictators(in the real sense as opposed to the BS cons spout about Obama)

    sadly cons still drink Fox koolaid
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    I'm saying Ho was responsible for butchering thousands of Vietnamese. For our President, as disgraceful as he may be, to in any way compare Ho with our founding fathers is par for the course.
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    Some people aren't large fans of Jefferson either, so I guess sympathy is in the eye of the beholder.
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    If you look at Ho's treatment of those who owned land in Viet Nam, then look at 0bama's vilification of the "fat cats" in the U.S., it sounds like 0bama was inspred by Ho.
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    Obama could spit in the face of some in this country and they would thank him from saving them from dying of thirst.
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    he said Ho was inspired by Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence. And apparently he was.
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    Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter and Obama all suck/ed. I told you all that Obama was a commie sympathizer. And he's a history flunky extraordinaire.

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