2 calls that changed the game

[mamag8ter]

Originally Posted by TheRaid

This is absurd. The officials did not cost us the game. We just lost a half of basketball to OlePiss by 15 points and you want to blame the refs? Whiners.

Uhh, we lost by three. We won the wrong half. At least we didn't lay an egg, like at Arkansas.

[gatorfansrule]

Follow through contact is usually not called a foul if it follows a block.

[GatorMcCluskey]

Originally Posted by gatorfansrule

Follow through contact is usually not called a foul if it follows a block.

like I said in the other thread, if you hit a jump shooter on the arm in the act of shooting, it's going to be called, regardless of whether you got all ball initially. The only time that getting a clean block first would matter is if you then contact the shooter's body with your body (and that's still going to be a foul a lot of the time). That's not what happened, though.

[gatorich]

Originally Posted by GatorMcCluskey

like I said in the other thread, if you hit a jump shooter on the arm in the act of shooting, it's going to be called, regardless of whether you got all ball initially. The only time that getting a clean block first would matter is if you then contact the shooter's body with your body (and that's still going to be a foul a lot of the time). That's not what happened, though.

I'm no expert but I see it just like the tie-up when WY stuffed Henderson at the goal. There was plenty of contact there also but it was a clean blocked shot so no call. Scottie blocked the ball cleanly and then made contact...maybe from the momentum of the block. There was no contact of the arm until after the block. Usually don't see this called.

[gatorich]

Originally Posted by TheRaid

This is absurd. The officials did not cost us the game. We just lost a half of basketball to OlePiss by 15 points and you want to blame the refs? Whiners.

Billy made reference to a couple plays being the turning point of the game in his presser, the no call on the goal-tending was obviously one of them. I guess Billy's just a whiner too.

[GatorMcCluskey]

Originally Posted by gatorich

I'm no expert but I see it just like the tie-up when WY stuffed Henderson at the goal. There was plenty of contact there also but it was a clean blocked shot so no call. Scottie blocked the ball cleanly and then made contact...maybe from the momentum of the block. There was no contact of the arm until after the block. Usually don't see this called.

we're gonna have to agree to disagree here. Again, any time you contact a jump shooter on the arm in the act of shooting the ball you are gonna get called for that foul. The clean block initially does not matter in this situation.

(edit to say that Yeguete's play on Henderson is one of the plays I saw that I actually thought would be a foul call on us and we got away with it. I agree with you there was contact there that could have gone either way. The main difference between the two plays is that Yeguete got his hands on the ball from above Henderson and the contact was body to body, not arm to hand/wrist like Scottie's foul.)

[NorthCaptivaGator]

Originally Posted by gatorich

Billy made reference to a couple plays being the turning point of the game in his presser, the no call on the goal-tending was obviously one of them. I guess Billy's just a whiner too.

I thought goaltending was a reviewable call. I was surprised, after Billy's reaction that the refs didn't stop play and review it.

[wci347]

Originally Posted by phideltdj

Up 8 Murphy's layup is an obvious goal tend no call and Henderson gets the break out 3...a five point swing. Next possession for Ole Miss...Wilbekin with a clean block on the Henderson 3 and the official standing next to Kennedy makes a terrible foul call as Scottie is going to get a layup. 3 more free throws and now the game is a 2pts. game. It is so frustrating...unfortunately we don't have a team with the mental psyche to overcome the adversity. The other thing is how do you not get a player to get into Henderson's head...the dude is a powder keg ready to explode and he should have had a couple of T's from the officials who didn't have the guts to ring him up...Joe Lindsay I'm talking to you. We need someone on this team that has some nastiness that would have mixed it up with him.

Good points. I think what would have silenced Henderson would have been getting the ball down low to Murphy and allowing him to abuse him under the paint. I saw at least two perhaps more possessions where Murphy was demanding the ball and no one got it to him