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Lawdog88 · 03-17-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Really impossible for me to say since there's one of these threads after literally every loss. I tend to believe that we as fans tend to start justifying things mid-game. I'm sure if Ole Miss lost their fans would have done the same. We aren't the most objective source here.

The first Scottie 3 pt. foul on Motor Mouth was all ball. All. Ball.

The commentators deftly did not comment on the replay.

The goal tending no call was observable from 378 miles away. No OB glasses needed.

The no-call Motor Mouth technical should be reviewed by the SEC for disciplinary purposes: it was blatant unsportsmanlike conduct and embarrassing to the conference.

The team did not have killer instinct, we were lax coming out in the 2nd, we were afraid to play in the paint - and when we did, were timid - and we did not convert foul throws. We lost because of that, but we can still fix that, even this late in the season, IMO.

The other stuff, we cannot.

Hill_Raiser · 03-17-2013, 05:02 PM

Lol. Death, taxes, and blame the refs. Murphy threw up 2 airballs in the last 5 minutes and completely short armed the 4ft bunny that would have tied it. But yeah, blame a 1st half goal tend.

Missing the front half of 1&1's late in a tight game kills you. Esp down 3 with 8 seconds left.

But yeah, other than the total fade down the stretch, it was the ref's fault.

rtgator · 03-17-2013, 05:03 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the no-call on Henderson, when he reached around Wilbekin from behind and slapped his arm. He never touched the ball. But, his slap on the arm caused Wilbekin to lose the ball.

Dykes saw the replay, which clearly showed Henderson slapping Wilbekin's arm and missing the ball altogether, and said no one ever calls that foul. Huh?

On the bigger issue about "blaming the refs". . . . . . The fact that we could have (and should have) overcome the bad calls doesn't absolve the refs of their crappy calls. They hurt and made it very difficult for us to regain our momentum.

Still, we should have pulled it out.

benheb · 03-17-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SwampFox

That is not cherry pickin' brutha.. That is our shot stats, including free throws...

The refs did have a lot to do with it. But free throws did too. I guess I'm one of the few that would say ours guys did not choke and these things happen and we are still a team that could win it all...

malscott · 03-17-2013, 05:12 PM

I'm sorry, as bad as reffin' might be at times it goes both ways and it was our 'team' the Gators, that didn't get it done. No mystery there. Couldn't close it out, pretty simple. Decent team we have but so far not exemplary. The tourney is gonna depend, as always , on luck, us playing well and other teams playing poorly. Then again favorable match-ups help. Decent season. Our Achilles heel though, so far, can't really win from behind, we get 'poop in our blood' at the end, everyone gets tentative, and I didn't see any reffs in Gator jerseys. Gators...step it up in the tourney. Plus, our bracket looks tough, projected one anyway.Go Gators.

IH8REFS · 03-17-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hill_Raiser

Lol. Death, taxes, and blame the refs. Murphy threw up 2 airballs in the last 5 minutes and completely short armed the 4ft bunny that would have tied it. But yeah, blame a 1st half goal tend.

Missing the front half of 1&1's late in a tight game kills you. Esp down 3 with 8 seconds left.

But yeah, other than the total fade down the stretch, it was the ref's fault.

I'm really not sure what part of this is difficult to comprehend. The refs sucked. The fact that our team sucked in the second half is immaterial. We're obviously not good enough to win 5v8.

rtgator · 03-17-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by malscott

I'm sorry, as bad as reffin' might be at times it goes both ways and it was our 'team' the Gators, that didn't get it done. No mystery there. Couldn't close it out, pretty simple. Decent team we have but so far not exemplary. The tourney is gonna depend, as always , on luck, us playing well and other teams playing poorly. Then again favorable match-ups help. Decent season. Our Achilles heel though, so far, can't really win from behind, we get 'poop in our blood' at the end, everyone gets tentative, and I didn't see any reffs in Gator jerseys. Gators...step it up in the tourney. Plus, our bracket looks tough, projected one anyway.Go Gators.

No, they were wearing Ole Miss jerseys.

Just kidding.

your_perfect_enemy · 03-17-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorMcCluskey

oh god not this crap again

Oh god not this crap about people apparently not knowing when we get screwed again

GatorLurker · 03-17-2013, 05:41 PM

The whistle didn't go our way today, but we had every opportunity to win this and didn't.

orangeblueorangeblue · 03-17-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawdog88

The other stuff, we cannot.

Right, but these are the things that we extract. We don't account for the calls that go our way; those are swiftly dismissed.

This happens after every. single. loss.. At some point we have to be a little more honest with ourselves.

**GatorNorth** · 03-17-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

Right, but these are the things that we extract. We don't account for the calls that go our way; those are swiftly dismissed.

This happens after every. single. loss.. At some point we have to be a little more honest with ourselves.

Yup.

We don't control the officiating but we do control whether we make free throws, shoot air balls from point blank range, clank missed, rushed 3's rather than going low post, literally hand the ball to Ole Miss 2 or 3 times near mid court for easy layups in transition, hold onto rebounds or break a press.

Do most of those other things today only reasonably well and no one is talking about the zebras while we're cutting down the nets.

Blaming refs is for losers, frankly, and that's what we were today.

TampaGatorFan · 03-17-2013, 05:50 PM

Folks, we shot a pathetic 8 of 17 from the stripe today...that's just unacceptable, and is the main reason we lost. Hit our free throws and we win this game, refs or no refs. It's that simple. This is not the first time this season our poor free throw shooting has cost us a game.

TampaGatorFan · 03-17-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorNorth

Yup.

We don't control the officiating but we do control whether we make free throws, shoot air balls from point blank range, clank missed, rushed 3's rather than going low post, literally hand the ball to Ole Miss 2 or 3 times near mid court for easy layups in transition, hold onto rebounds or break a press.

Do most of those other things today only reasonably well and no one is talking about the zebras while we're cutting down the nets.

Blaming refs is for losers, frankly, and that's what we were today.

^ truth

benheb · 03-17-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaGatorFan

Folks, we shot a pathetic 8 of 17 from the stripe...that's just unacceptable, and is the main reason we lost. Hit our free throws and we win this game, refs or no refs. It's that simple. This is not the first time this season our poor free throw shooting has cost us a game.

I noticed that ole miss was bulldozing our guys out from around the basket. I believe our guys don't do that as we are thin with low post players and they are taught it is important to stay out of foul trouble.

Young may need to learn to play differently when a game is being called the way this one was.

However, refs were not consistent. I don't know how anyone watching game could disagree.

twodaparty · 03-17-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

You can count on it. We lose, it's the refs.

Dude no one wants you and the other football first fans who tip toe over here when it's too early to start worrying about spring drills. Take your crap elsewhere. You don't give two craps about Florida basketball, and only show up to light a flame when true avid Gator hoops fans are irate about getting jobbed by biased refs.

**nastyreptile** · 03-17-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

You can count on it. We lose, it's the refs.

Why don't you just go somewhere else to [post your crap, you obviously shouldn't be here.....

GatorMcCluskey · 03-17-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawdog88

The first Scottie 3 pt. foul on Motor Mouth was all ball. All. Ball.

The commentators deftly did not comment on the replay.

no, it wasn't all ball - Wilbekin initially got ball and then his momentum carried him into Henderson's hand and arm on the follow through. That was a clear foul.

I thought the refs let a lot of stuff go on both sides - there were plenty of our second half steals and loose ball recoveries where we made a lot of contact with no call.

Bottom line to me, we didn't make the plays we needed to make to win the game. Blaming the refs for that is ridiculous.

GatorMcCluskey · 03-17-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by your_perfect_enemy

Oh god not this crap about people apparently not knowing when we get screwed again

When we lose, we got screwed; when we win and the opposing fans think they got screwed, they're a bunch of whiners.

orangeblueorangeblue · 03-17-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by twodaparty

Dude no one wants you and the other football first fans who tip toe over here when it's too early to start worrying about spring drills. Take your crap elsewhere.

I've watched every game but one this year, haven't missed more than 3 in a season since I graduated. Get out of here with this nonsense.

gatorich · 03-17-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorMcCluskey

no, it wasn't all ball - Wilbekin initially got ball and then his momentum carried him into Henderson's hand and arm on the follow through. That was a clear foul.

I thought the refs let a lot of stuff go on both sides - there were plenty of our second half steals and loose ball recoveries where we made a lot of contact with no call.

Bottom line to me, we didn't make the plays we needed to make to win the game. Blaming the refs for that is ridiculous.

Scottie got all ball on the block and made contact after the block. That is not a foul.
We should have made plays, no doubt, and the officiating was not the only reason for the loss. The momentum of the game changed on the no call Goal Tending and transition three. That 5 point swing was HUGE, I just can't see how anyone would say it wasn't. Sure looked to me like the officials not wanting the game to get to far out of reach. Ole Miss caught fire shooting after that and we didn't do a good job of getting the game back under control.