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mdfgator · 03-20-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Graygator

No, actually, Driskel was completely unprepared both physically and mentally in his first year. He was a deer in the headlights.

Hate to be rough

mdfgator · 03-20-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mdfgator

Hate to be rough

Hate to be rough but that's not how a winner acts that's a loser hope I am wrong

rounds · 03-20-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Graygator

No, actually, Driskel was completely unprepared both physically and mentally in his first year. He was a deer in the headlights.

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Yes, actually, that is exactly what I said by implication. He admits in the article that he failed to prepare himself on a weekly basis and didn't take Louisville seriously.
My question also is "Why did Pease allow this to happen"?

fox · 03-20-2013, 06:37 PM

The driskel article sounds great to me. About a kid growing up! He has great talent and will do great things for us.

GatorAvatar · 03-20-2013, 06:45 PM

Listen, you know from the get go if someone is going to be special: Floyd, Bullard, Dante Fowler, Burton Trey, Tebow, Harvin, Hernandez etc. With Driskel, or Brissett for that matter, I don't see it. Brissett and Driskel will go down in history as average college QBs. I'll bet on it.

GATORAZ · 03-20-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Listen, you know from the get go if someone is going to be special: Floyd, Bullard, Dante Fowler, Burton Trey, Tebow, Harvin, Hernandez etc. With Driskel, or Brissett for that matter, I don't see it. Brissett and Driskel will go down in history as average college QBs. I'll bet on it.

Trey Burton is not special and never will be.

VTGator · 03-20-2013, 06:57 PM

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Last year, Pease felt both Brissett and Driskel would say they understood a play or concept when they sometimes didn't, wanting to impress the new coach and appear ahead of the other guy.

“When they were in there competing,” Pease recalled, “maybe they weren't as honest as always they said they were, ‘Hey, I got this. I know this.' After we went back and assessed and I kind of re-asked some questions, there was some, ‘Coach what do you mean by that?' I think they maybe hid some things a little bit. Not mischievously, but just in a learning factor of trying to know it all.”

Lied to the OC about knowing plays? It's a miracle we lost only 2 games when our starting QB had that attitude.

GATORAZ · 03-20-2013, 06:59 PM

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Lied to the OC about knowing plays? It's a miracle we lost only 2 games when our starting QB had that attitude.

not really this is nothing new both guys were trying to win the job

fox · 03-20-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Listen, you know from the get go if someone is going to be special: Floyd, Bullard, Dante Fowler, Burton Trey, Tebow, Harvin, Hernandez etc. With Driskel, or Brissett for that matter, I don't see it. Brissett and Driskel will go down in history as average college QBs. I'll bet on it.

Yes because every special player we've ever had started his first year as special. No one ever became special if they didn't start out special.

GatorByte · 03-20-2013, 08:57 PM

I'm not trying to pile on Jeff here, but I have to admit that I often wonder how interested (and precisely how invested) he really is about being a premier QB... and really how important football is to him overall. Reading that article scared me as a fan, but I don't really find it surprising. To be fair, I don't know him personally... and I can only base my limited impression off his interviews and tweets. Additionally, he has now made it pretty clear that he has changed his approach for the better.

Is he just telling us what we want to hear though? Didn't Pease believe he was telling him what he wanted to hear?

My question is... is this a guy that would rather be fishing? Yeah... that is totally a serious question.

I hope I'm wrong and he is the one that can help make us Alabama's equal one day. Right now I'm not sure that is the case. We absolutely must have more stability at QB to be elite again.

**dawny** · 03-20-2013, 09:19 PM

Why can Bama just plug in a QB or other players and keep on going full throttle and we have to train a Driskel after a full Season,what are we doing wrong? what happen to the QB out of Dade City he has a live arm ,do like Spurrier did give them all a chance and walkon or 5th string wins the job,still believe we lost the Qb with the most brains to NC state/Brissett.

GatorByte · 03-20-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dawny

Why can Bama just plug in a QB or other players and keep on going full throttle and we have to train a Driskel after a full Season,what are we doing wrong? what happen to the QB out of Dade City he has a live arm ,do like Spurrier did give them all a chance and walkon or 5th string wins the job,still believe we lost the Qb with the most brains to NC state/Brissett.

McCarron makes it pretty clear in interviews that he would practically sell his soul to perfect his skill at the position. That attitude starts at the top on that team, and that's why they are where they are. As a result, the biggest problems Bama fans have is that their title t-shirts become obsolete on an almost yearly basis.

If we want to compete with a monster like that, we need some hardcore player leadership at QB. Until then, we will never be on common ground with them.

**newdad** · 03-20-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dawny

Why can Bama just plug in a QB or other players and keep on going full throttle and we have to train a Driskel after a full Season,what are we doing wrong? what happen to the QB out of Dade City he has a live arm ,do like Spurrier did give them all a chance and walkon or 5th string wins the job,still believe we lost the Qb with the most brains to NC state/Brissett.

Are you serious!

GATORAZ · 03-20-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dawny

Why can Bama just plug in a QB or other players and keep on going full throttle and we have to train a Driskel after a full Season,what are we doing wrong? what happen to the QB out of Dade City he has a live arm ,do like Spurrier did give them all a chance and walkon or 5th string wins the job,still believe we lost the Qb with the most brains to NC state/Brissett.

This question is flawed Bama is in their 5th year of a system. Florida was in its 1st year of a system last year. If you watched Jeff in high school you would know that team was terrible he did it all. Jeff was just raw talent brought in to run the spread. I don think we are doing anything wrong the team LOST 1 REGULAR SEASON GAME LAST YEAR. Think about that. Kids learn more and more each year at every postion

LanceT · 03-20-2013, 09:46 PM

Fowler, Morrison, Matt Jones.....leading the way to Gator dominance

rounds · 03-20-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorByte

I'm not trying to pile on Jeff here, but I have to admit that I often wonder how interested (and precisely how invested) he really is about being a premier QB... and really how important football is to him overall. Reading that article scared me as a fan, but I don't really find it surprising. To be fair, I don't know him personally... and I can only base my limited impression off his interviews and tweets. Additionally, he has now made it pretty clear that he has changed his approach for the better.

Is he just telling us what we want to hear though? Didn't Pease believe he was telling him what he wanted to hear?

My question is... is this a guy that would rather be fishing? Yeah... that is totally a serious question.

I hope I'm wrong and he is the one that can help make us Alabama's equal one day. Right now I'm not sure that is the case. We absolutely must have more stability at QB to be elite again.

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Exactly!
Talk is cheap.
Pease's comments added to Jeff's comments and tweets do not inspire confidence, to say nothing of the many absolutely BONEHEADED plays we endured last year with basically no improvement from game one to the bowl game and perhaps regression excluding the sows.
Of course Shane Matthews came from 7th string to starter & Kerwin Bell was a walk-on, so I suppose there is always hope.

Spleezy · 03-21-2013, 12:32 AM

'm going to wait until at least the Orange and Blue game before I jump to any conclusions one way or the other....I don't think we know anything until the Miami game honestly.

CharlesUF09 · 03-21-2013, 04:14 AM

I don't think we'll have to wait for the Miami game. Toledo wasn't a great team last year, but they were a pretty good mid-major. Florida shouldn't have trouble with them, but Florida shouldn't have had trouble with ULL either, so I think what we see in that first game will set the tone a lot for the season. Unfortunately, I could easily see us coming out flat, so the alternative of coming out and blowing the doors off somebody would be really nice.

GatorSean · 03-21-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Listen, you know from the get go if someone is going to be special: Floyd, Bullard, Dante Fowler, Burton Trey, Tebow, Harvin, Hernandez etc. With Driskel, or Brissett for that matter, I don't see it. Brissett and Driskel will go down in history as average college QBs. I'll bet on it.

Not even remotely accurate.

Danny couldn't even get on the field his first year and was redshirted.

Mathews was 5th string his frosh year.

Different players develop at different rates and peak at different times.

Sometimes a player peaks in high school, is a 5 star recruit, and then never gets any better and can't even get on the field in college. Other players are lower rated high school players, but then peak in college and then everyone wonders why they weren't recruited more heavily. Still other players peak in the pros, they weren't recruited much out of high school, go to small schools and go undrafted, and then find a spot on a team and the next thing you know they are in the Pro bowl.

Nobody knows from the get go how good any player is going to be at any giving time during their development. If we did know that, then there would be no such thing as a 'bust' in either college or the pros.

Ahab · 03-21-2013, 10:00 AM

Comparing McCarron's situation to Driskel's is night and day. McCarron was given the keys to a well oiled machine with an all-time great OL and plenty of offensive weapons. Driskel has played behind a shaky OL with a lack of playmakers. It's not surprising that one QB had instant success and the other did not.