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Tito22 · 03-18-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TnCamoGator

It was the first 3 years he was at Florida. he became into his own by Alabama in 2011 because he was in a pro-style offense and was developing with it. Then he got injured and everything stalled. It also didn't help the o-line wasn't great nor could anyone get open for him consistently

Smh...sure man

The_Graygator · 03-18-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rounds

sigh...we need some walk-on QB's quick!!
Skyler hitching it into dirt.
Murphy holding it for the sack.
Driskel missing 11 on 11 & throwing it behind receivers on even short 7 on 7's. Everyone else pulls all-american QB's out their butts and we can't develop or sign even ONE that can throw the damn rock to the right spot...118th passing offense is gonna kill attendance.
PLAYERS are made in the off-season, not in 15 effin spring practices. WTF is it going to take??

Oh brother....

The_Graygator · 03-18-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tito22

Brantley's problem wasn't the system

Oh, yes it was.

int1974 · 03-19-2013, 05:37 AM

The system did not fit Leak, he did allright. I like Brantley,but he was a miss. and his football IQ was lacking.

socraticsilence · 03-19-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rounds

Jones was a MAN up the middle against the sows last year and got better as the season progressed. With our passing problems there is plenty of room for 3 great RB's as usually at least 1 will be semi-dinged up.

With our passing problems, our deep RB stable and Jeff being able to run, we might as well make the Wishbone our base offense-- after all our passing game was around the option squads last season (literally we were better than the three academies, Temple, GT and New Mexico and that's it) might as well get the running boost those teams get.

socraticsilence · 03-19-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

I like Driskel, and I hope he gets it together. He is starting to remind me of John Brantley: 5* out of high school, very high expectations, played in wrong system.

He's a spread option QB, maybe even a really good spread option QB- in a pro style offense he's Tebow in the NFL minus the leadership and the deep ball.

For everyone who wondered how Tim would've looked in a pro style scheme attack- check Jeff last year add amazing leadership and actual touch on the deep ball.

socraticsilence · 03-19-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by int1974

The system did not fit Leak, he did allright. I like Brantley,but he was a miss. and his football IQ was lacking.

I don't think anyone rationally believes Brantley would have been good in a pro style system, people just think he would have been better.

If the running game and defense are good enough Jeff might be able to be our Trent Dilfer and just avoid turning the ball over enough to win a title, if we ever need to make throws down the field or drive with less than 2:00 left we're probably going to lose if we can accept that, and just watch defense it could be a fun year, when we get the ball-- that's when you can get up and get a new beer.

Ahab · 03-19-2013, 11:33 AM

Simply put, Driskel hasn't played enough for us to make judgements on his ceiling. If he's still struggling by the time midseason rolls around, then it would be more appropriate.

The_Graygator · 03-19-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by int1974

The system did not fit Leak, he did allright. I like Brantley,but he was a miss. and his football IQ was lacking.

I'm not going to get into this tit-for-tat argument and spin this thread off topic. Brantley was a pure drop-back pocket passer not only forced into running a spread-option offfense he didn't have the physical skills to run with an OC who was totally unqualified for the job, but he had few truly good recievers to throw to and he also played hurt with multiple injuries his last two years too.

I think we can give the kid a break. I have no problem with constructive or fair criticism of his play at times, and he definitely deserved some too, but there are those here who harshly over-criticize the kid and suggest "he wasn't talented enough/was a bust" and they're completely off-base.

He never really had a chance to succeed in the system he played in.

socraticsilence · 03-19-2013, 01:14 PM

I think a more objective way to look at the QB situation would be to judge Jeff by his peers, I realize our offense hurts a QB's development and will probably never be good by most objective standards but where would you guys rank Jeff among SEC QBs- Last season I'd say he was in the 11-14 range but this year I believe he can be a Top 10 QB and perhaps by his senior season challenge for 3rd team all SEC.

The_Graygator · 03-19-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by socraticsilence

I think a more objective way to look at the QB situation would be to judge Jeff by his peers, I realize our offense hurts a QB's development and will probably never be good by most objective standards but where would you guys rank Jeff among SEC QBs- Last season I'd say he was in the 11-14 range but this year I believe he can be a Top 10 QB and perhaps by his senior season challenge for 3rd team all SEC.

I think the fact that we had trouble at WR's coaching and few to almost zero WR's to throw to basically eliminated a downfield passing game for us. Driskel was also basaically playing his rookie year as starter too. Reed was our main passing threat, with a little bit of Dunbar thrown in at times.

Debose has mostly been a motivational attitude case and needs an experienced, veteran WR's coach to motivate and coach him (Joker Phillips will tune him in IMO), and Pittman, who I think will turn into a very, very good reciever, was raw and inexperienced last year.

I also believe that the loss of Solomon Patton who helped attacked our opponents on the perimeter on jet sweeps enabled opposing D's to heavily load the box against us too.

Joker Phillips is going to help Pease develop a downfield passing game for us this season, and I am far from panicking because Jeff had one bad practice. This is a matter of repetition and practice for him in the downfield passing game and WR coaching.

It's not all going to come at once, but it will come and we'll be a better offense for it in 2013.

theghost · 03-19-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahab

Simply put, Driskel hasn't played enough for us to make judgements on his ceiling. If he's still struggling by the time midseason rolls around, then it would be more appropriate.

Agree Ahab. If he makes progress this year people need to let it go. I'd just like to see 200+ ypg average (meaning there will be some 150 yard games and a few 250+ yards games)....and improved TD passing to INT ratio (it was actually pretty good if you throw out the UGA game).

Dreamliner · 03-19-2013, 03:08 PM

Had we not stunk up the place, vs. Louisville, nobody would be wringing their hands about Driskel. Up to that point, he'd led the team to a wildly improbable 11-1 mark. It was just the way he/we finished that left a sour taste.

your_perfect_enemy · 03-19-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Had we not stunk up the place, vs. Louisville, nobody would be wringing their hands about Driskel. Up to that point, he'd led the team to a wildly improbable 11-1 mark. It was just the way he/we finished that left a sour taste.

Will Hill's lady friends?

rounds · 03-19-2013, 04:56 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...n-more-in-2013

Driskel admits in this article by Ed Aschoff to not taking the time to prepare for games last year.
VERY disturbing on so many different levels. WTF was Pease monitoring?? And how will it be any different this year?

UFreak · 03-19-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rounds

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...n-more-in-2013

Driskel admits in this article by Ed Aschoff to not taking the time to prepare for games last year.
VERY disturbing on so many different levels. WTF was Pease monitoring?? And how will it be any different this year?

It is disturbing to hear that. I guess it is something that you have to understand with some sophomores. Some of them don't mature as quick. Hopefully, he takes a big step in taking responsibility this year/grows up a bit more.

Ahab · 03-19-2013, 06:47 PM

Aren't they making a comparison as to how much more seriously Driskel is taking things this year?

c_gator24 · 03-19-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahab

Aren't they making a comparison as to how much more seriously Driskel is taking things this year?

Yeah if he still was like that he wouldn't have said anything.

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rounds · 03-20-2013, 01:13 PM

Driskel played enough in his FR year to get a feel for the pressure and complexity of the position, thus the amount of time and dedication required to properly prepare and lead his team to offensive success on a game by game basis, if he ever will, in my opinion.
Talk is very cheap.
Some got it, most don't.

The_Graygator · 03-20-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rounds

Driskel played enough in his FR year to get a feel for the pressure and complexity of the position, thus the amount of time and dedication required to properly prepare and lead his team to offensive success on a game by game basis, if he ever will, in my opinion.
Talk is very cheap.
Some got it, most don't.

No, actually, Driskel was completely unprepared both physically and mentally in his first year. He was a deer in the headlights.