03-17-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rpmGator
Anyone want to talk about all the kids that got killed in Iraq, when it was all a lie. Book just came out from one of the Bush insiders that says the yellow cake story was a lie, just to talk us into a war only our leaders wanted. While blowing the war in Afghanistan as well.
Nope, its easier to just find a few deaths on the other side of the ailse and pretend your side didn't cause more death, and debt than they.
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As like we have had any Bush war threads. Why can't you just deal with the topic on hand instead of deflecting?
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03-17-2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
As like we have had any Bush war threads. Why can't you just deal with the topic on hand instead of deflecting?
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Because this whole topic is by, for and of total hypocrites, that's why.
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03-17-2013, 12:08 PM
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so you hope shab
but I think you know otherwise
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03-17-2013, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fredsanford
Because this whole topic is by, for and of total hypocrites, that's why.
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Is this your way of saying Obama foreign policy matters should be off the table for discussion?
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03-17-2013, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fredsanford
Because this whole topic is by, for and of total hypocrites, that's why.
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Rex non potest peccare.
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03-17-2013, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingGatorII
I think you will see that Obama and his administration chose to let these people die by their inaction. I think you will discover that they weighed the political fallout of a failed operation like Desert One against the chances of success and sacrificed Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods for votes. I think you will then discover a cover up that makes Watergate look like child's play from Obama all the way down to the complaint media, and that includes Hillary and Paneta (which is a shame because I credit them with getting Bin Laden by tricking Obama and his handler Jarrett into it after they denied the operation for several months worried about the same political fallout if the mission failed). It started the morning after the attacks with the lies about an online video being the reason for the attack when they knew it wasn't. The reason no one cares is because the media refuses to cover it outside of Fox News. The reason the libs here don't care is because they are playing the Stepford Wives to their omnipotent husband Obama, just like CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and just about every other major media outlet does. Honestly, I appreciate the debate here but the out and out willful ignorance by the most ardent Obamatrons here makes it increasingly hard to take them seriously.
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Let's see, among the claims coming from Fox and the right so far have been: Marines weren't allowed ammunition, the CIA was told to stand down, the White House watched the who attack on live video ... All false, of course. And those are just the ones off the top of my head.
Now, if I understand correctly, Obama made a conscious decision not to help the consulate because it would have cost him votes?
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03-17-2013, 12:33 PM
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where there is smoke there is fire river
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03-17-2013, 12:40 PM
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where there is smoke there is fire river
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Come on, Bill. You guys have complained about everything since before Obama was even elected. Not a citizen, no birth certificate, sealed college records, giving the US to the UN, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion for everyone. Time after time, it's been simply false.
If the fact that you guys are complaining is the smoke, I'd say there's been a great absence of fire.
It'd be like saying that because some fools claimed that Bush blew up the New Orleans levees, that it's probably true.
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03-17-2013, 01:42 PM
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where there is smoke there is fire river
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What's amazing is that Obama LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH about Benghazi. he was PROTECTED by the LMSM the 7 weeks leading up to the election too.
And libs just give them both a pass on this.
Just like Hurricane Sandy. They attacked Bush daily over Katrina, yet nothing, NOTHING about the continued and unresolved destruction and misery6 after Sandy.
When will libs finally practice what they preach? Hypocrites.
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03-17-2013, 01:58 PM
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What's amazing is that Obama LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH about Benghazi. he was PROTECTED by the LMSM the 7 weeks leading up to the election too.
And libs just give them both a pass on this.
Just like Hurricane Sandy. They attacked Bush daily over Katrina, yet nothing, NOTHING about the continued and unresolved destruction and misery6 after Sandy.
When will libs finally practice what they preach? Hypocrites.
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Just because the GOP and Fox say Benghazi was Obama's fault doesn't make it true.
The GOP nominated a dud for prez. That's why they lost.
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03-17-2013, 02:02 PM
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I am personally more offended by Obama's willingness to lie in a speech to the UN with pure BS about the video than by him wilting before the moment itself during the attack.
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03-17-2013, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
Let's see, among the claims coming from Fox and the right so far have been: Marines weren't allowed ammunition, the CIA was told to stand down, the White House watched the who attack on live video ... All false, of course. And those are just the ones off the top of my head.
Now, if I understand correctly, Obama made a conscious decision not to help the consulate because it would have cost him votes?
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Can't make this stuff up. We'll I guess you can if you can't tell the difference between wishes and reality. No evidence needed for the former.
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03-17-2013, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by g8orbill
where there is smoke there is fire river
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Given the false claims by folks on the right about Benghazi, where there's smoke, there's Fox, WND and the Daily Caller at the helm of the smoke machines.
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03-17-2013, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jdrgator
Given the false claims by the right about Benghazi, where there's smoke, there's Fox, WND and the Daily Caller at the helm of the smoke machines. 
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That is the other reason I find the aftermath more damming than the events themselves -- the total lack of ambiguity. To go more than two weeks talking about a video required an intentional will to deceive or such gross incompetence as to be unfit for office, from the President down.
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03-17-2013, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
To go more than two weeks talking about a video required an intentional will to deceive or such gross incompetence as to be unfit for office, from the President down.
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Obama has proved he's unfit for office, so get used to it. He's not going away any time soon.
It has always been said that this country can survive any president. It's too early to tell if it has actually survived Bush or if it's just on life support. But Obama is certainly not what the doctor should have ordered.
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03-18-2013, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiGator2002
That is the other reason I find the aftermath more damming than the events themselves -- the total lack of ambiguity. To go more than two weeks talking about a video required an intentional will to deceive or such gross incompetence as to be unfit for office, from the President down.
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CIA talking points for Susan Rice called Benghazi attack "spontaneously inspired" by protests
"CBS News has obtained the CIA talking points given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on Sept. 15 regarding the fatal attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, four days earlier. CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan says the talking points, which were also given to members of the House intelligence committee, make no reference to terrorism being a likely factor in the assault, which left U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead....
The CIA's talking points read as follows:
"The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US diplomatic post in Benghazi and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.
This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.
The investigation is on-going, and the US Government is working with Libyan authorities to bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of US citizens."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_1...d-by-protests/
CNN Fact Check: A day after Libya attack, Obama described it as 'acts of terror'
"...The conclusion: Romney's precise comment was false. Obama did describe the killings in Benghazi as an act of terror twice in the two days after the attack...."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/politi...t-check-terror
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03-18-2013, 11:43 AM
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Obama LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH ABOUT BENGHAZI, and was also protected by his lapdog media about it too.
Libs cannot refute it, yet they defend this scumbag without question.
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03-18-2013, 12:10 PM
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Talking points from an organization of professional liars (who may or may not have had some typically harebrained operation going on in Benghazi). Obama: "Sounds good to me."
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03-18-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Graygator
Obama LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH ABOUT BENGHAZI, and was also protected by his lapdog media about it too.
Libs cannot refute it, yet they defend this scumbag without question.
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Of course they do- they want what he is spewing
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03-18-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Graygator
Obama LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH ABOUT BENGHAZI, and was also protected by his lapdog media about it too.
Libs cannot refute it, yet they defend this scumbag without question.
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To believe that, you'd also have to believe Cheney and Bush were lying on Iraq.
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