Apply For obama care What A Joke

[diehardgator1]

Want to apply for obama care you only have to fill out an application 15 pages long for a family of 3. Then you may not get to see a real doctor. Wanna buy on line there are 21 steps you go thru and takes 30 to 45 minutes to complete. It is so bad they are going to hire advisors to help you fill them out. This has got to be the biggest joke of the century. Of course what do you expect when the government gets involved.


"Premiums for some could double, 20 new taxes are being implemented, you may not even get to see a real doctor the next time you're sick, and if you can get past all that, it's going to take a very long time to apply for coverage.

In fact, the Associated Press says the process is as daunting as doing your taxes.

For a family of three, the government's draft application is 15 pages long!

If you thought you could get health insurance online in an amazon-style marketplace, think again. The online application process has 21 steps, and some of those steps have more than one question.

The Department of Health and Human Services estimates that it will take you at least a half hour to complete the online application and 45 minutes to fill out the paper version."

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/wi...#ixzz2NXFphO1R

[g8orbill]

All anyone needs to know about how obamacare is going to be is that it will be run by the IRS

[wgbgator]

I sell health insurance. Unless its a temporary plan, 30-45 minutes to complete an app and initial underwriting is pretty normal for a permanent, comprehensive plan. Just another "scare" story IMO.

[jsc28]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

I sell health insurance. Unless its a temporary plan, 30-45 minutes to complete an app and initial underwriting is pretty normal for a permanent, comprehensive plan. Just another "scare" story IMO.

I read through the app last week. The biggest change compared to now is obviously the lack of health questions AND the amount of financial information. It's almost like you are applying for a loan.

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by jsc28

I read through the app last week. The biggest change compared to now is obviously the lack of health questions AND the amount of financial information. It's almost like you are applying for a loan.

Well, if people are going to get public subsidy, its probably a good idea to find out what their finances are. One would think a rigorous loan-like application might be a good thing if we're dispensing public funds to cover some of the costs.

[jsc28]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

Well, if people are going to get public subsidy, its probably a good idea to find out what their finances are. One would think a rigorous loan-like application might be a good thing if we're dispensing public funds to cover some of the costs.

I am not really saying if it is good or bad, just the stark difference to now.

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by jsc28

I am not really saying if it is good or bad, just the stark difference to now.

I didnt take it as good or bad. But that's because until now, there were no public subsidies for private health insurance. I'm sure getting Medicaid (or any means tested program) involves a similar disclosure of assets.

[MichiGator2002]

See how the government steps in out of putative generosity and immediately obligates you in all sorts of tangential ways because it is only fair if you expect them to _____? It's like a protection racket.

[diehardgator1]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

I sell health insurance. Unless its a temporary plan, 30-45 minutes to complete an app and initial underwriting is pretty normal for a permanent, comprehensive plan. Just another "scare" story IMO.

And your applications are 15 pages long?

[ThePlayer]

Originally Posted by g8orbill

All anyone needs to know about how obamacare is going to be is that it will be run by the IRS

We used to joke the IRS was out for blood.
Now we know it's everything else too.

[PSGator66]

It is all about raising more tax dollars and nothing to do with healthcare.

[Itssaul]

I think any law that is opposed by the opposite party will be complicated

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by diehardgator1

And your applications are 15 pages long?

Well, we ask a lot of questions. I havent done a page count, since all our apps are web based. We've been paperless for a long time. Just updating my health history at the doctor is like 3 pages now. I don't really get the obsession with page counts though. If I'm insuring you, letting you borrow money or offering you a subsidy, I'd like to know a few things about you.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Removing or mitigating what is - by far - our biggest national expense is going to take many years of heartache one way or another. If Obamacare is the wrong path, though, it's going to exacerbate the issue as we backtrack and try again. After all, Medicare/Medicaid is so flawed everything that's proposed now is an attempt to undo much of its inherent flaws.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by diehardgator1

And your applications are 15 pages long?

More importantly are their applications sent to 3 government agencies including the IRS for approval...

You don't want to know how inefficient and ridiculous the IRS is as well...

[jmoliver]

Can I do the application on my "Obama Phone"?

[diehardgator1]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

Well, we ask a lot of questions. I havent done a page count, since all our apps are web based. We've been paperless for a long time. Just updating my health history at the doctor is like 3 pages now. I don't really get the obsession with page counts though. If I'm insuring you, letting you borrow money or offering you a subsidy, I'd like to know a few things about you.

You sell ins and don't know how many pages in your application? I worked Met Life for four years and our application back then was 2 pages

[g8orbill]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

I sell health insurance. Unless its a temporary plan, 30-45 minutes to complete an app and initial underwriting is pretty normal for a permanent, comprehensive plan. Just another "scare" story IMO.

what are you going to do for a job once obamacare is fully implemented?

[gatorjd95]

We are in middle of our ins enrollment. Application is one legal sized page - front only. I agree that page count doesn't mean much, but it is indicative of how bureaucrats operate - the more red tape, the better job security, and more gov't employees dependent upon the whole racket.

We need to repeal Obamacare; disconnect health insurance from employment; and allow direct sale of health insurance in the marketplace (like car insurance). Sending money to the gov't for services will result in waste, fraud, and awful service.

[reformedgator]

And how long will be before the govt hires people to assist in getting thru the maze?